You've misinterpreted what I said. I was saying tge majority of houses don't have 4k. So the disc / media is still low.
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You've misinterpreted what I said. I was saying tge majority of houses don't have 4k. So the disc / media is still low.
Soldato
Sooo you dont think the lack of adoption is a cost issue then?
Aren't most people watching the 4k stuff currently on netflix that's part of the subscription, versus specific, more expensive movie purchases on Apple too ?
so there are 3 categories of purchase.
Maybe disatisfaction with streamed quality will grow when/if more people have bigger screens too ie 65"+, and ,they start doing vfx at 4k on a majority of movies,
perhaps they will increase the streamed bitrate in response, otherwise people may turn to disc.
(ie they will start delivering 4K streamed which has the PQ of 4K not the equivalent of a 1080p/blu-ray disc at home, which most reviews say netflix delivers)
so there are 3 categories of purchase.
Maybe disatisfaction with streamed quality will grow when/if more people have bigger screens too ie 65"+, and ,they start doing vfx at 4k on a majority of movies,
perhaps they will increase the streamed bitrate in response, otherwise people may turn to disc.
(ie they will start delivering 4K streamed which has the PQ of 4K not the equivalent of a 1080p/blu-ray disc at home, which most reviews say netflix delivers)
Erm no. I was in at the beginning of dvd in 1998 the cost was the same. Its dvd that's holding back 4K.
Although you could argue that standard blu ray is also holding back 4k. Get rid of blu ray and you have a much bigger jump.
Soldato
Back in 1998 you didn't have more convenient, cheaper VOD services available. Things would have been very different if you did.
https://www.pocket-lint.com/tv/news...a-hd-blu-ray-is-dead-before-it-really-started
There's no evidence to suggest DVD is more of a threat to UHD than streaming services. That later is just too convenient and better VFM and that for a lot of people is what matters. Even 'hardcore' enthusiasts find themselves streaming more and buying less physical media despite physical media being the benchmark in picture and sound quality..and who'd blame them?
https://www.pocket-lint.com/tv/news...a-hd-blu-ray-is-dead-before-it-really-started
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There's no evidence to suggest DVD is more of a threat to UHD than streaming services. That later is just too convenient and better VFM and that for a lot of people is what matters. Even 'hardcore' enthusiasts find themselves streaming more and buying less physical media despite physical media being the benchmark in picture and sound quality..and who'd blame them?
Soldato
Its cost and understanding. £25 for a 4k disc, £8-£15 for the bluray less for the DVD. Joe Public dont understand 4k discs so they need to know why they are paying £25 for a disc when the same one on bluray cost £15 less. (I know there are cheaper ways over the sea but Joe Public wont know that)
Take my brother in law for example. He had a decent Panasonic HD TV but wants a 4k TV. Mainly for the newer apps on the TV as well as 4k. He will be getting a Panasonic probably because this is what he knows. I suggested an OLED but he said "whats that". He also wants a NAS for his iTunes and videos and recording TV. He is also under the impression he can watch 4k via the NAS. How legitimately I`m not sure but this is where the understanding of 4k falls down. I said why dont you get a 4k player Sainsburys are selling a LG one for £79 at the moment. He didnt like this idea as he's seen the films at £25.
Personally I still buy discs but am very choosy what I buy usually its something I may watch more than once and want the best possibly PQ, eg Avengers Infinity War/Endgame, John Wick 3, and the Spiderman Far From Home when its realised. I wouldnt settle for 4k streaming for these as I know I'd never be watching it at its best.
Take my brother in law for example. He had a decent Panasonic HD TV but wants a 4k TV. Mainly for the newer apps on the TV as well as 4k. He will be getting a Panasonic probably because this is what he knows. I suggested an OLED but he said "whats that". He also wants a NAS for his iTunes and videos and recording TV. He is also under the impression he can watch 4k via the NAS. How legitimately I`m not sure but this is where the understanding of 4k falls down. I said why dont you get a 4k player Sainsburys are selling a LG one for £79 at the moment. He didnt like this idea as he's seen the films at £25.
Personally I still buy discs but am very choosy what I buy usually its something I may watch more than once and want the best possibly PQ, eg Avengers Infinity War/Endgame, John Wick 3, and the Spiderman Far From Home when its realised. I wouldnt settle for 4k streaming for these as I know I'd never be watching it at its best.
Soldato
I meant the best possible picture quality (for me) using my existing setup. eg Netflix 4k 15meg stream is not as good as a 4k disc being played on my Sammy player. I dont have a projector.
It’s been done as most people ( especially early adaptors ) wouldn’t have had more than 1 4k player and 4K tv. So the blu ray could be used in other rooms.
Soldato
Also as said in another thread its more attractive to the retailer because they only have to stock one item which contains both bluray and 4k instead of a bluray and then a 4k box. Retail space is at a premium.
will probable need a vpn ... but will this have any PQ benefits over a disk ?
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1570086603
if it is mastered with a different transfer function pictures may look different, although I can't see that limited streaming bandwidth would offset any benefits of that , or a different noise reduction system; maybe their streaming bandwith is >>15Mb/s netflix 4k
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1570086603
if it is mastered with a different transfer function pictures may look different, although I can't see that limited streaming bandwidth would offset any benefits of that , or a different noise reduction system; maybe their streaming bandwith is >>15Mb/s netflix 4k
Soldato
I have a 4k OLED and constantly wowed by its performance. This led me to thinking of the best solution to show it's 4k-ness and OLED-ness to its best potential. I *think* this would mean a dedicated 4k blu ray.
This in mind and if valid, is the Panasonic DP-UB450EB @ circa £165 a good option?
This in mind and if valid, is the Panasonic DP-UB450EB @ circa £165 a good option?
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Yes its a good option but see if it gets cheaper by the weekend.
Soldato
Xbox One S/X can do 4k Bluray playback, plus it's a games console
As i understand it not quite as good as a dedicated player tho.
Lowest ever price atm according to the camels
Yeah its a good option and it's what i am currently using with my GZ950 OLED and its been flawless.
Soldato
IYO is the PQ via the standalone player much better than the 4k streaming offerings? , I have BT sport & tbh feel the 4k is a bit underwhelming
4k Blu ray picture quality is so much better, netflix is alright on some programs but most of it along with sky, BT 4k is compressed into submission and the picture is barely any better than 1080, infact a standard blu ray looks far better than a 4k movie on sky for example.
Panasonic UB820 would be my choice if it drops for black Friday.
I'd get a 'refurb' from pan ebay store £99, when they're next up ...hopefully coincident wth an ebay voucher ... otoh 820 min price there £219