*** 4K Player Thread ***

[TALON1973]

I posted that link a page or 2 back.

But I still can't find a BR with a DV icon on.

I never mentioned standard blu rays You can get Atmos on standard blu ray. But until they start putting DV in bog standard blu ray players you got zero chance of discs having them. That’s one of the main selling points of 4K discs in having hdr / dv.

 

[TALON1973]

Looks like Samsung is pulling out of the 4k player market

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cn...o-stop-making-4k-blu-ray-players-report-says/

 

[TALON1973]

It says in the US market only so what does that mean for the UK ? i am still rocking my samsung 8500.

I'm pretty certain it will be worldwide .

 

[TALON1973]

I’d love to get the ub9000. Love the look of it. Maybe when it hits below £500.

 

[TALON1973]

Ok... so it’s now been about 3.5 years since 4k blu ray came out. What’s people’s opinions on its success?

Since I bought my original ub900 I’ve gone to the ub820 , but I also use my Apple 4k tv box more times. Does the format have a future ?

 

[TALON1973]

It's suffering like Blu-Ray did in the past. Lack of market due to lack of availability. A vicious circle. Many films released are just upscaled too.

I sill think it's down to studios not killing dvd.

 

[TALON1973]

so has your 4K disc ownership expanded as you thought .. were/are they too expensive ?
or, worse there's been an absence of new films you thought warranted a disc purchase

Well I’ve got 65 4k movies on disc ( sold a few ) and I’ve Been more choosey on purchases. But what’s held me back the most is Apple TV.

I’ve got 124 films on my uk account and 50 on my USA. Not all are 4k , but the majority are. The convenience factor and the PQ and cost of digital films vs disc means I’m buying more things for streaming.

 

[TALON1973]

That really sums it up for most people.

Well no. Most people don't have 4k. Disc is my preferred option.

 

[TALON1973]

The fact you have nearly double the number of digital movies compared to discs would suggest otherwise?

You've misinterpreted what I said. I was saying tge majority of houses don't have 4k. So the disc / media is still low.

 

[TALON1973]

Sooo you dont think the lack of adoption is a cost issue then?

Erm no. I was in at the beginning of dvd in 1998 the cost was the same. Its dvd that's holding back 4K.

Although you could argue that standard blu ray is also holding back 4k. Get rid of blu ray and you have a much bigger jump.

 

[TALON1973]

Netflix 4k is ok but nowhere near the quality of a proper 4k movie, why do they insist of putting a bluray version of the movie in the pack when you buy a 4k movie, it just adds to the cost when not needed.

It’s been done as most people ( especially early adaptors ) wouldn’t have had more than 1 4k player and 4K tv. So the blu ray could be used in other rooms.

 

[TALON1973]

So..... a thread bump...... it’s now nearly 5 years since the 4k disc format came out. In that time I owned the Panasonic ub900 on launch day, and then moved to the ub820.

Has the 4k player market gone into standstill ? Apart from more expensive players ( ub9000 etc ) with better build quality, where left is the 4k player market to go ?

If they did a 4k player with built-in hd ( which apparently is available in Asia but nowhere else ) , which could persuade me to invest in another player . I just can’t see me moving from my ub820 until it fails me.

I’m keeping consoles out of the conversation equation, as I’m focusing on dedicated.

 

[TALON1973]

You can't really keep consoles out, they are the only thing that could kick start the 4k disc sales (when people can actually get them)

You are unlikely to see proper investment in stand alone players if the market isn't thriving.

Well I’ll admit yes the ps3 help sell blu ray. But as a purist I’m hoping something else comes out.

 

[TALON1973]

I'm in the market for a UHD Player too, planned to buy along with a new AV Receiver but there's **** all choice at the moment due to the market generally declining, COVID-19 and shipping issues.

Holding out now to see what gets announced for this year.

What did you have your eye on / Budget ?

 

[TALON1973]

Bluray player will be either Sony UBPX800M2 or Panasonic DPUB820 at the moment.
AV Receiver, unsure, waiting to see what comes this year for around £500-£650 tops. Slim pickings currently.

What’s your current setup?

 

[TALON1973]

55” Sony XH95
Sky Q
Sony STR-DN1040
Wharfedale 9.1

Everything else has either busted or been canned. It’s a whole rejig.

Plan is to get a new Blu-ray player, AV Receiver and a new 3.1.2 setup and move to 5.1.2 later once I’ve figured out rear placements.

And you want all that for £650 ?

 

[TALON1973]

No, lol. Just the AV receiver for around £500-£650. Blu-ray player under £300, speakers I haven’t decided yet.

Well if you don’t want sacd then the panny is definitely the player to go for.

 

[TALON1973]

Got the Panasonic DP-UB 820 in the end. Whacked the settings up and enjoying 4K DV from a solid quiet player. Very glad.

Good choice. Only players that really beat it cost double the amount. And that’s more in build quality and the odd feature.

 

[TALON1973]

I believe the only premium brand /model is the Panasonic 9000 , otherwise its relatively budget players.

There is the Pioneer Elite UDP-LX500