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5090 Price

My point is mostly that even if they were re-launching the 4090 today, it would have to be priced 15-20% higher in £/$ than it was in 22 at launch, so folks expecting prices similar to last time are probably in for a nasty surprise.

And yes, the ticket prices of GPUs seem to be rising faster than other bits, but they are the most complex 'single component' these days, and AI is hoovering up the high end (as crypto mining once did)...

Is the price per-frame-per-second really getting worse from generation to generation?
Technology gets cheaper as time goes on not the other way round. Parts that were cutting edge two years ago are less so now.
 
We should expect to any new technology to devalue quickly. I personally would buy any expensive computer equipment based on resale value. But admittedly I’m not the sort of person that has any interest in paying anything but ‘cheap’ for second hand / non-shop PC components.

I expect the 5080 to out-perform the 4090 in most games.

Assuming that the 5090 gives 50% more performance than a 4090 I also think I’d much rather spend £2000 on a new 5090 than £300 on a random used 4090, but that’s just me!
 
Technology gets cheaper as time goes on not the other way round. Parts that were cutting edge two years ago are less so now.
That's only true if the cost of making it goes down over time. Newer processes aren't really improving much anymore in terms of density, speed or power, but each new node is a lot more expensive, both in terms of per-wafer and one-off mask-costs.
 
That's only true if the cost of making it goes down over time. Newer processes aren't really improving much anymore in terms of density, speed or power, but each new node is a lot more expensive, both in terms of per-wafer and one-off mask-costs.

In this case a lot of the increases are because Nvidia have an effective monopoly on the high end, and they can charge what they want. They also know even if their competition have something competitive they can still charger 20-30% more and people will still buy Nvidia because it's Nvidia.

Costs are part of it sure, but not all of it.
 
I also think I’d much rather spend £2000 on a new 5090 than £300 on a random used 4090, but that’s just me!
You wrote that with a straight face?

I think I'd be delighted to get a used 4090 for £300 and be feeling rather smug that I wasn't daft enough to blow £2k on a bloody GPU FFS!
 
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You wrote that with a straight face?

I think I'd be delighted to get a used 4090 for £300 and be feeling rather smug that I wasn't daft enough to blow £2k on a bloody GPU FFS!

Haha, yup I even thought about what my personal biting point would be… probably… around £300. But as mentioned I’d rather have a 5090 *shrug*

Buying a used, mystery, fire hazard and about to be ‘bested’ card has little appeal to me… personally! :p
 
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If the 5080 is between £999 and £1299 say, I don't think the 5090 will be double the price. You are not going to get +100% performance, it just dosnt scale like that. The market for +40% performance (realistically) at +100% price would be incredibly small.

So I'm still sticking with 5090 <£2000.

problem is most leaks put the 5080 at or 10% better than the last gen flagship 4090, i would be suprised if we see £1500 for the 5080, given the 5090 has double the cuda cores and ram capacity you can bet nvidia will charge upto double the 5080.
we'll all knwo soon enough, 48hrs to go. hasnt the rtx50 lan event kicked off?
 
Technology gets cheaper as time goes on not the other way round. Parts that were cutting edge two years ago are less so now.
That's what normally happens and what one would expect but this is Nvidia the biggest scalper in the technology area, The fact that they stopped production of the 40x series because they don't want people buying them or they don't want to drop the price of them when the 50x series arrives and also the fact that I am now seeing listings of 4090's for £2400 ( I really did LOL ) when I saw that, This tells you all you need to know where and what Nvidia plan for their pricing on the 50x series.

Thankfully I got a 4090 at MSRP when they were released on day 1 so I won't be touching the 50x series with an extra LONG barge pole and I am going to go out on a whim and say IF they are over 2K then you should quite easily be able to pick one up as they will be rotting on shelves depending on pricing.

Remember when Jensen said he is a gamer? HAHAHA no CEO of a company that wants to improve products and get this sort of hardware into users hands stops production of their last gen which are currently the fastest GPU's on the market, This is to control supply and make you pay more for the new gen, He is no gamer and does not have any gamers intentions at the slightest thought in his mind other than what margins can be made.
 
problem is most leaks put the 5080 at or 10% better than the last gen flagship 4090, i would be suprised if we see £1500 for the 5080, given the 5090 has double the cuda cores and ram capacity you can bet nvidia will charge upto double the 5080.
we'll all knwo soon enough, 48hrs to go. hasnt the rtx50 lan event kicked off?

If the price increase is above the performance increase by much it would make the 5090 an easy no buy IMO.
 
If the 5080 is between £999 and £1299 say, I don't think the 5090 will be double the price. You are not going to get +100% performance, it just dosnt scale like that. The market for +40% performance (realistically) at +100% price would be incredibly small.

So I'm still sticking with 5090 <£2000.

Wasn't the 3090 10% for double the price of the 3080?

The 4090 is 2x the price for +22% of the xtx

What's a 4080super cost? It's within like 19% of the 4090

I honestly think a lot of posters here would spend like 800 bucks more on 10% performance as long as it was the top dog of the stack
 
Technology gets cheaper as time goes on not the other way round. Parts that were cutting edge two years ago are less so now.

GTX 680 $499
GTX 690 $999
GTX 780 Ti $699
GTX 980 Ti $649
GTX 1080 Ti $699
RTX 2080 Ti $1295
RTX 3090 $1499
RTX 3090 Ti $1659
RTX 4090 $1599

Huang's net worth rose rapidly along with the value of Nvidia's stock, from US$3 billion in 2019 to US$90 billion in May 2024
The Very high priced RTX2080ti was released in September 20th, 2018
 
GTX 680 $499
GTX 690 $999
GTX 780 Ti $699
GTX 980 Ti $649
GTX 1080 Ti $699
RTX 2080 Ti $1295
RTX 3090 $1499
RTX 3090 Ti $1659
RTX 4090 $1599

Huang's net worth rose rapidly along with the value of Nvidia's stock, from US$3 billion in 2019 to US$90 billion in May 2024
The Very high priced RTX2080ti was released in September 20th, 2018
Man the 3090ti is actually a brutal card. Demolished by a cheaper 4080 a couple months later. What a **** you to the buyers that product was. The 2080ti was so underwhelming too but at least it had a couple years of bragging I think? What was even ray traceable during the 20x0 series run? Quake RTX?
 
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