58% Failure

KNiVES · 31 Mar 2007 at 20:31

There is no denying that the 360 has a higher than accepted failure rate. I had a 3 red ring event once, but a reboot has sorted it. I've never seen it again ever since, but I am always a little nervous everytime I press the power button on.

FrankJH · 31 Mar 2007 at 21:16

rp2000 said:
My biggest problem with MS at the moment is the lack of infomation they reveal:

A lot of people want to know:

- how many consoles fail
- how the live members are broken down (gold silver etc)
- how many marketplace sales they make
- how many videos are downloaded

They never reveal any figures for any of this, just coy marketing BS with percentages etc. They just claim that all of it is successful and the fans swallow it blindly without any figures to back it up.

Weird.

rp2000

This indeed would make interesting reading - and as MS are usually very quick to blow their own horn, it surely means these figures arent particularly flattering currently.

Admittedly a complete guess though - I could be very wrong

trojan698 · 31 Mar 2007 at 22:39

wannabedamned said:
Just look at this thread. So many people who havent had a problem, Jumping to defend the console. Same would happen in the poll

I'm not 'defending' the 360, I'm rubbishing the poll. If the failure rate was 58%, MS would have stopped production. Fact. Now run along.

Spinal2k2 · 31 Mar 2007 at 22:56

" This represents 0.26% of the 1,007,246 Gamertags registered to date"

0.26%

0.26% of register gamertags (ie those who have reg'ed on xbox live (be it silver or gold).

and people are slagging the 360 over the ps3.

How much longer has the 360 be out compared to the ps3 - lets remember the failure rate of the PS2 when that came out.

wannabedamned · 31 Mar 2007 at 23:07

trojan698 said:
I'm not 'defending' the 360, I'm rubbishing the poll. If the failure rate was 58%, MS would have stopped production. Fact. Now run along.

my god, someone seems to have a holier than thou complex.

Shush and Run along?

How about you realise what you're saying, Who has said the failure rate is 58%??? no one.

They are saying 58% of users that took that poll's machines have failed. Which seems to be the case.

If we were talking world wide problems, As has already been said, the industry average is 3% and its VERY likely the Xbox 360s failure rate is a fair amount higher than that, Understand the 1% is worth a lot in world wide figures.

lordrobs · 2 Apr 2007 at 13:20

lordrobs said:
Original 15 month old console still going strong btw

Well I talked that one up didn't I

Having a sneaky go on Saints Row during my lunch break and it locked up, dark grey screen with checkerboard effect. Re-started, locked up with fuzzy lines. 3rd time lucky...? No. Boots to dash and loads the game fine though.

Tried PES6 same result half way through setting up a cup.

No red lights though :confused:

PaulStat · 2 Apr 2007 at 13:33

I haven't read past the first couple of posts.

But that's a silly statistic, 2700 people co-operated out of X million 360's that have been sold in the past 18 months or so.

These sort of things will always bring out the bad points of a product, of course people who have had failures will be annoyed and will be more than likely congregate at online forums to complain and take part in petitions like this.

Hardly a fair cross section of the 360 general public i'd say

Nismo · 2 Apr 2007 at 13:34

lordrobs said:
Having a sneaky go on Saints Row during my lunch break and it locked up, dark grey screen with checkerboard effect.

Mine started locking up with the checkerboard 'effect', 3 red lights shortly followed.

Raymond Lin · 2 Apr 2007 at 13:38

Reports like these makes me want to wait until the next gen of 360 with the cooler core comes out before buying one.

Robert · 2 Apr 2007 at 13:40

I'm pretty sure it's not over-heating causing the problem.

lordrobs · 2 Apr 2007 at 13:40

Teletraan-82 said:
Mine started locking up with the checkerboard 'effect', 3 red lights shortly followed.

Well I've unlpluged it and will try it again later but I think its stuffed :mad:

Currently its about 45 seconds after its loaded the game before it falls on its arse. :rolleyes:

I always said that if it died out of warrenty I'd get a PS3 to replace it but even with selling all the bits off and my games I'm going to be a long way short of the PS3 price tag and thats without any games. A new core is going to be £135 plus I can sell off the power brick, cables and controller plus someone might give me a tenner or so for the dead 360 so will probably be less than £100 all in and I'll still have my 15 or so 360 games to play.

Decisions decisions.

Mr Men · 2 Apr 2007 at 13:45

I would buy a new core, and get the old one fixed in the meantime at that Scottish place that does it for £45 I think, then sell the repaired machine

FrankJH · 2 Apr 2007 at 13:48

lordrobs said:
Well I've unlpluged it and will try it again later but I think its stuffed

Currently its about 45 seconds after its loaded the game before it falls on its arse.

I always said that if it died out of warrenty I'd get a PS3 to replace it but even with selling all the bits off and my games I'm going to be a long way short of the PS3 price tag and thats without any games. A new core is going to be £135 plus I can sell off the power brick, cables and controller plus someone might give me a tenner or so for the dead 360 so will probably be less than £100 all in and I'll still have my 15 or so 360 games to play.

Decisions decisions.

No one could argue with that logic at all - its a very hard one to call

It could be a case of throwing more money down the drain (ie another 360 failing...if you buy before the redesign of the standard model appears) or playing a very small selection of games from a so far reliable console.

Just out of interest do you still play all of those "15 or so" games? If so then I would take a gamble with the cheaper x360 and flog whatever you can to make a little money.

I really enjoy my ps3, for games and movies, but in your position its a lot more difficult a choice

lordrobs · 2 Apr 2007 at 13:53

FrankJH said:
Just out of interest do you still play all of those "15 or so" games? If so then I would take a gamble with the cheaper x360 and flog whatever you can to make a little money.

Not really. I've got lots that I "really must get round to completing some day"

I decided the other week that I needed to have a clear out of games and cut my collection down to 5 or so.

Something that I keep forgetting is that I play my games on a VGA monitor and I don't even know if thats possible with the PS3

That could be the deciding factor right there

Bonjour · 2 Apr 2007 at 13:56

lordrobs said:
Well I've unlpluged it and will try it again later but I think its stuffed

Currently its about 45 seconds after its loaded the game before it falls on its arse.

I always said that if it died out of warrenty I'd get a PS3 to replace it but even with selling all the bits off and my games I'm going to be a long way short of the PS3 price tag and thats without any games. A new core is going to be £135 plus I can sell off the power brick, cables and controller plus someone might give me a tenner or so for the dead 360 so will probably be less than £100 all in and I'll still have my 15 or so 360 games to play.

Decisions decisions.

If you do go with another 360, it's probably best to go with an extended warranty for 3 years or so. The 360's one of the few cases where it's probably worth it. At least that way you'll get some peace of mind.

roboffer · 2 Apr 2007 at 14:00

Just filled it in, got the magazine at the weekend and meant to do it but completey forgot. And for the record, I am still on my launch machine but its blatently obvious there are inherent problems - but 50+% is way overestimated. I really dont think the survey will paint a true picture of the problems.

lordrobs · 2 Apr 2007 at 14:11

Bonjour said:
If you do go with another 360, it's probably best to go with an extended warranty for 3 years or so. The 360's one of the few cases where it's probably worth it. At least that way you'll get some peace of mind.

Looks like its going to have to be another 360 as there isn't a VGA cable for the PS3 and I can't find any details of one being planned either

Bonjour · 2 Apr 2007 at 14:16

You could auction your current one off. I've seen them go for £60 - £70, which would at least help in some way toward a core. Might get more if you do it before you get the full on ring of death.

Rollo · 2 Apr 2007 at 18:31

The size of the sample is actually fine and would give you around 3% accuracy of the true % of borked boxes. It's the non-randomness of the sample which makes the survey worthless.

Population size (number of xboxes sold) has no bearing on how many you'd need to sample.