That’s a tad high. You can also do a pbo negative offset on your bios. Start with -10 on all cores and then gradually move down to -30 if you can. You will see drops in your temps. I tested with Cinebench.
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5800x3D upgrade
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Yes, I'll look into it, thank you. However, it's difficult to know what is normal when so many people undervolt out of the gate. I'm sure silicon lottery rather than cooler quality plays a significant part too.
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What sort of temps do you get in gaming. As you have the same cooler as me.
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Peak temps of mid 60s C if GPU limited and mid to late 70s C if CPU limited (the latter was observed in the city in Baldur's Gate 3).
My 5800X3D also appears to be drawing around the same amount of power (according to MSI Afterburner) or even slightly more than my 3900X when CPU limited in Baldur's Gate 3, which was a surprise given the reviews said it consumed less (but perhaps that's when GPU limited at least some of the time).
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Wouldn't have minded having a 3D chip but not at these prices- I'll use my 7600 until very last chip is available on AM5
That’s a bit high I usually get a max of 65c gaming. Might be worth putting an extractor fan in the rear roof of your case.
Thanks, I've already done that. Case airflow is good and I am using a Phanteks P600S with the front open and all Noctua case fans which is a high airflow configuration.
Perhaps I just lost the silicon lottery (turning the CPU fans up to max barely makes any difference, so I believe the heat transfer problem is within the CPU itself due to the increased L3 cache and the voltage of my particular CPU). Anyway the CPU appears to perform okay.
Edit: I tried clearing the CMOS just in case of any conflicts after upgrading from my 3900X, but it made no difference. My 5800X3D just draws more power than average (up to 129W package power in Cinebench which from reading online is high).
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Soldato
Tried under volting the CPU?
Thanks, I'm looking into it. However, I just wanted to establish that things were working correctly first.
Soldato
Mine only does -15 but it still boosts to 4.45Ghz.
At the end of the day as long as temps are not causing any issues it doesn't really matter what temps it hits.
But the undervolt is necessary otherwise the cpu won't boost to it's max speeds.
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What motherboard are you using? Cant see that anybody has asked this yet.
Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master rev 1.0 with BIOS F39d (a beta version, but it addresses an important security vulnerability and people online say it's a good BIOS without problems, I haven't seen any reports of issues).
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Soldato
Was hoping you were going to say MSI which you would have probably had Kombo Strike to use.
Im using Kombo Strike 3 which sets -30 on all cores and sets all the power limits too, but along with this I have a negative offset of 0.1000v.. core voltage is just Auto with PBO set to Auto.
Before I had Kombo Strike I tried these settings I picked up from Reddit a while back, tested them all with -30 curve all core with the same negative Offset/auto PBO/Voltage I use now and they all seemed stable with my chip.
Have you tried -30 on all cores with an -Offset? I've noticed on my chip that -0.1000v runs much cooler than -0.0875v Offset.. temp difference with these Offsets running CPU-Z/CB23 is around 5c cooler.
Maybe try similar settings to above but dont touch the CPU voltage and leave that on Auto, use a negative Offset like above with PBO also on Auto.
Using -0.1000v my max gaming temps are usually low 60's and CPU-Z is around 64c with CB23 around 70c.. all core is 4450Mhz, I even see this when streaming with x264 encoder. My ambient temps are similar to yours too btw, I never have my thermostat above 21c lol
Hope you get it figured out as Im sure somebody has said before that all the 5800X3D chips are binned so silicon lottery cant be that bad
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My GPU is at full utilization (3440 x 1440), so I am sticking with my 7600 until something changes.
Absolute bargain the 7600 for my use case.
I'm testing XMP stability at the moment, but thanks for the tips. I know the chips are binned, but I read online that some of the more recent 5800X3D's aren't as efficient because all the best bins are going to Epyc where there is high demand for them.Was hoping you were going to say MSI which you would have probably had Kombo Strike to use.
Im using Kombo Strike 3 which sets -30 on all cores and sets all the power limits too, but along with this I have a negative offset of 0.1000v.. core voltage is just Auto with PBO set to Auto.
Before I had Kombo Strike I tried these settings I picked up from Reddit a while back, tested them all with -30 curve all core with the same negative Offset/auto PBO/Voltage I use now and they all seemed stable with my chip.
Have you tried -30 on all cores with an -Offset? I've noticed on my chip that -0.1000v runs much cooler than -0.0875v Offset.. temp difference with these Offsets running CPU-Z/CB23 is around 5c cooler.
Maybe try similar settings to above but dont touch the CPU voltage and leave that on Auto, use a negative Offset like above with PBO also on Auto.
Using -0.1000v my max gaming temps are usually low 60's and CPU-Z is around 64c with CB23 around 70c.. all core is 4450Mhz, I even see this when streaming with x264 encoder. My ambient temps are similar to yours too btw, I never have my thermostat above 21c lol
Hope you get it figured out as Im sure somebody has said before that all the 5800X3D chips are binned so silicon lottery cant be that bad
Soldato
Had not heard about this, glad I got mine in May 2023 now. For the RAM I have this weird thing going on, there is 2 profiles, 1 and 2.. 2 seems more stable as 1 likes to drop the clocks down randomly to 2400MHz but both profiles look like they have exact same timings lol
Anyway Im always using profile 2 that seems to keep them at 3600MHz.
Hope you get it all sorted.
Thanks, that's interesting about the XMP profiles. My Crucial Ballistix 3600MHz only has one so I don't need to worry
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i had a 5900x in a b350 tomahawk so you should be fine
Soldato
I managed to get hold of a 5800x3D, I'm almost exclusively a WoW player these days due to time restraints. The difference it makes in raids is quite ridiculous actually, coming from a 5800x, not so much that the max fps has increased a lot but more the minimum fps, it's just so much smoother. Didn't realise how badly it had been affecting my performance in raids etc, I was about ready to give up and concede I couldn't still do it at this age and work/life demands 