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5870 1000 core v GTX 480 850 core

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No one really cares if you get 200FPS in streetfighter as long as we get 60fps then it don't really matter all i see here is green willy waving.

Also there is really no need to be running insane amounts of AA when gaming at 1680x1050.

The only game out there at present which i feel really pushes gpu boundaries is metro2033 but that's because it's so poorly optimized. Who cares if valve handles and teddys look smoother as i don't really notice that kinda thing when trying to kill the mofo thats trying to eat my brains.

Too much of this benchmark rollocks lately just over excited e-peens being waved back and fourth between the green and red sides.

And all this is based on a overclock which some people might not get not everyone will get 850mhz just like not everyone will get 1ghz core on a 5870.

Besides your tech is newer 5870 are old news now anyway been out for what seems like forever and here you are comparing your latest tech card to it seems kinda pointless IMO.

I will be sure to benchmark the latest tech when they arrive just so i can relate to this thread and say look my new tech beats the old tech.

Rant over maybe ocuk should just delete the graphics forum cause this is all it ever seems to be lately even a genuine call for help results in a this vs that affair most of the time. pfffffft
 
I would have thought that you would be more likely to use higher amounts of AA at a 'lower' resolution. In general, almost always infact, benchmarks used are based around 16XX x 10XX and above resolutions. Xfire / Sli are generally cosidered worth applying when using these resolutions.
 
bigjimmyauk said:
No one really cares if you get 200FPS in streetfighter as long as we get 60fps then it don't really matter all i see here is green willy waving.

Also there is really no need to be running insane amounts of AA when gaming at 1680x1050.

The only game out there at present which i feel really pushes gpu boundaries is metro2033 but that's because it's so poorly optimized. Who cares if valve handles and teddys look smoother as i don't really notice that kinda thing when trying to kill the mofo thats trying to eat my brains.

Too much of this benchmark rollocks lately just over excited e-peens being waved back and fourth between the green and red sides.

And all this is based on a overclock which some people might not get not everyone will get 850mhz just like not everyone will get 1ghz core on a 5870.

Besides your tech is newer 5870 are old news now anyway been out for what seems like forever and here you are comparing your latest tech card to it seems kinda pointless IMO.

I will be sure to benchmark the latest tech when they arrive just so i can relate to this thread and say look my new tech beats the old tech.

Rant over maybe ocuk should just delete the graphics forum cause this is all it ever seems to be lately even a genuine call for help results in a this vs that affair most of the time. pfffffft
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couldnt agree more

i stopped benching and showing my numbers up now.. because ive realised there's no point.. in reality there are not much out software/game wise that will really call for so much speed and power.. unless I were to set poorly optimised games at max settings, which again is pointless as no one would be paying attention to the slighty smoother curves from 4aa to 32aa at high res, while one's busy running around shooting and blowing up stuff.

in fact gonna delete my sig lol.. but what i do love are how silent my graphics cards are.
 
While I'm of the opinion that 4x AA is enough for anyone at any res (within reason) when your actually playing... don't knock 32x AA it does noticeable increase the overall image quality even over 16x in situations where you literally need a magnifying glass to see the difference between 4, 8 or 16x.
 
really?
truth to tell I have a friend who has got gtx 480, and for the live of me I still cant tell 32aa from 8aa.. and I cant tell 8aa from 4aa.. this is of course while "playing" games such as dirt 2, battlefield and crysis..

perhaps im not just one to stay still and closely examine the surroundings while getting shot at.

we both have 1920 x 1080 monitors
 
32x looks far clearer... atleast for me its like night and day.

EDIT: Tho I'm judging based on 32x SLI AA which I think uses a slightly different implementation not really played with the single card 32x AA.
 
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High FPS makes a difference, take Dirt2 for example, with the 5870 FPS would jump between 60-90 FPS and it did not feel smooth, 480 is 100 fPS all the time and it just feels and looks much smoother, same with NFSS, juddery on the radeon going in to corners, the 480 is butter smooth. Regarding AA, older games look amazing with virtually no performance hit, BF2 looks amazing with 32xAA.
 
Nice comparison however I have a few small suggestions/improvements.

1. You look like you tested the 5870 with 10.4 cats and the 480 with the latest 258.96 drivers. Ideally both should have been tested with the latest drivers but I assume your 5870 is long gone now or alternatively tested the gtx480 with Nvidias April drivers. It is hard to judge how much of the gain might be from driver improvements.

2. You mention (often) how good the scaling is with the 480 and how poor it is with the 5870. It would have been nice to have seen your stock figures for comparison. I actually find my 5850 scaled very linearly eg a 5% increase in core shows almost a 5% increase in game framerates. Does this mean the gtx480 scales better than it's clock increases? eg a 5% increase in core equals more than 5% increase in framerates? Not doubting your observations as I don't have a gtx480, just curious.

3.Also don't forget that although you are upping both cards by 150Mhz, in reality you are overclocking the 5870 by 17.6% and the gtx480 by 21.4% so that will give the gtx480 an extra 4% boost in comparison. I assume your 5870 wasn't stable at 1032Mhz to have a like for like comparison? If so far enough as you are tested both cards at their maximum stable overclock.
 
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High FPS makes a difference, take Dirt2 for example, with the 5870 FPS would jump between 60-90 FPS and it did not feel smooth, 480 is 100 fPS all the time and it just feels and looks much smoother, same with NFSS, juddery on the radeon going in to corners, the 480 is butter smooth. Regarding AA, older games look amazing with virtually no performance hit, BF2 looks amazing with 32xAA.
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couldn't disagree more i'm a avid nfss shift racer and fully maxed out at 1920x1080 i get no slow down at all going into corners even in the first corner of a track where you could be battling 4-5 opponents no slow down at all. Maybe was a specific problem for you old rig or the drivers u were using.
 
No offense to you guys with the 5870's but you haven't just gone from one to a 480 so you don't know what the difference is like, in a nutshell the gaming experience is smoother on a 480 compared to a 5870.
 
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So here it is, my take on the 5870 v 480 debate,

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mwhahah.. look at my 5870's pwn ur 480 where it counts most.. on the jc2 menu fps :D



:p

seriously though, nice score there for ur 480, i get 70.**fps at ur 1680x1050 res + same settings with 2 vapour-x 5870's at 875/1250 (stock) with an i7 @ 3.6
 
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Andrew Moore said:
I sold a pair of 5970s for a single gtx480 because the minimum frames are higher even though everything else is massively slower... but having the high minimum gives the illusion of a faster system so im happy as I am now £500 odd better off.
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I remember doing that moving from crossfired 4850's to a single GTX260.

Those higher minimum framerates meant games felt a lot smoother despite all the other framerates being a lot slower!

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for people saying 32aa is da bomb can you post high res screen shots (or link it) in games such as dirt 2, or battlefield bad company 2, for the rest of us to make comparisons.

I know i've seen 32aa on bad company 2 and for the life of me i still cant fathom what the fuss is.
 
I just hope the 475 or whatever they bring out next with similar/better cooling solutions to the reference 460 will be something special! this thread is positive news for a whole number of reasons.
 
Another nvidia fan having to justify his purchase. Im not biased to AMD or nvidia and have been very happy with my ATI card.

But you have to remeber the 5870 is cheaper and older. Why do nvidia users have to keep this argument going is beyond me.
 
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