5th May UK regional elections discussion and results

I can't see a problem with Khan, he'll be forced to operate under an intense spotlight and if he attempts any BS like trying to "crack down on Islamophobia" or bring in other dubious ideas I'm sure he'll be firmly kicked to the curb.
 
Terminal_Boy said:
Labour in 3rd place North of the Wall and Wee Jimmy Krankie's SNP have failed to secure a majority in Holyrood.
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Ah, UKIP supporter eh?

The voting system in Scotland which was foisted on us as part of devolution, is designed not to allow a majority. Case in point is that the SNP secured more votes than last time but have fewer seats. Tactical voting by unionist parties also ensured slight wins where an SNP candidate would have won. An expected majority also meant that some SNP voters lent their list vote to the Greens which unfortunately, also cost the SNP a few seats from the list.

The Tory gain almost matched Labours losses. Simply put, unionist Labour voters went to the Tories and independence supporters went to the SNP. The big bright spot was that UKIP failed to gain a single seat in Scotland.
 
eddiemcgarrigle said:
Ah, UKIP supporter eh?

The voting system in Scotland which was foisted on us as part of devolution, is designed not to allow a majority. Case in point is that the SNP secured more votes than last time but have fewer seats. Tactical voting by unionist parties also ensured slight wins where an SNP candidate would have won. An expected majority also meant that some SNP voters lent their list vote to the Greens which unfortunately, also cost the SNP a few seats from the list.

The Tory gain almost matched Labours losses. Simply put, unionist Labour voters went to the Tories and independence supporters went to the SNP. The big bright spot was that UKIP failed to gain a single seat in Scotland.
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not that I'm a UKIP or an SNP supporter but at face value it seems a bit odd that some people would strongly support increased sovereignty for Scotland when it concerns the UK but to be completely against that when it concerns the EU

obviously there are other benefits to EU membership though there are other benefits to UK membership too...
 
pepsilol said:
It scares me that the UK is turning into USA, a load of folks who can be easily scared by the M word.
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Thank you. I am glad I am not alone in thinking this.

Zak Goldsmith's campaign was built on smearing his opponent, again what the American candidates do. Rather than have a solid manifesto he went on the M bandwagon and then even mentioned Bollywood and had no clue about what he was talking about.....

Anyway, bedtime. Peace all :)
 
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pepsilol said:
It scares me that the UK is turning into USA, a load of folks who can be easily scared by the M word.
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Except it isn't as it has just elected a Muslim mayor of London. You are doing exactly what you accuse others of doing, projecting your negative stereotype on to a wider population.
 
RDM said:
Except it isn't as it has just elected a Muslim mayor of London. You are doing exactly what you accuse others of doing, projecting your negative stereotype on to a wider population.
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Really?

Did you see anything about the Presidents dinner in particular, whereby white folk got agitated at a certain word? (Even when the president himself was finding it funny).

The UK isnt entirely there yet, but Universities/Liberal areas(groups in general) certainly are emulating the same level cognitive dissonance that the US counterparts seem to enjoy.
 
eddiemcgarrigle said:
Ah, UKIP supporter eh?

The voting system in Scotland which was foisted on us as part of devolution, is designed not to allow a majority. Case in point is that the SNP secured more votes than last time but have fewer seats. Tactical voting by unionist parties also ensured slight wins where an SNP candidate would have won. An expected majority also meant that some SNP voters lent their list vote to the Greens which unfortunately, also cost the SNP a few seats from the list.

The Tory gain almost matched Labours losses. Simply put, unionist Labour voters went to the Tories and independence supporters went to the SNP. The big bright spot was that UKIP failed to gain a single seat in Scotland.
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Yes and No.
The system was designed to ensure no Party got a majority. The real results with the usual fptp was

SNP 59 +1%
Cons 7 +8%
LD 4 -0/1%
Lab 3 -9.2%

The Greens and LD's ran a campaign saying a second vote for the SNP was a wasted vote as they were going to win anyway.

The List vote

SNP 4 -2.3%
Cons 24 +10.6%
LD 1 0.0%
Lab 21 -7.2%
Greens 6 +2.2%

The Tories constantly rabbited on about a second referendum, trying to re-run the referendum, whereas the other Parties concentrated on Education, Health, jobs etc. The Greens were more nationalist than the SNP.

I do not think it was a case of Nationalist vs anti-Nationalist. The SNP has been quite a good Govt in the past and while no Govt is perfect people recognised their progress. Labour's leader put up a poor performance as Opposition Leader last Parliament and contributed to their losses.

The real scandal of the List vote(2nd Vote) is that a candidate can put themselves forward in a Constituency, get rejected by the electorate and still become an MSP via the List system. The Labour Leader got rejected but then got in because she was also on the regional List. You should be on one OR other.

The best thing, as you say,

UKIP failed to gain a single seat in Scotland
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RDM said:
Did 100% of those that voted for Goldsmith vote for him because he said Khan was an extremist? I very much doubt it, I doubt it was the majority of the people that voted for him.
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Sorry but who with even half a brain cell would ever want to associate themselves with that chap?
 
pepsilol said:
Sorry but who with even half a brain cell would ever want to associate themselves with that chap?
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So 43% of London voters are not in their right mind now? Let me guess, your definition of "right mind" is "agrees with me"? :)

Decry UK politics for turning into US politics and then acts in exactly the same partisan way the staunchest of staunch republicans would?
 
http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2016/03/30/sadiq-khan-there-are-too-many-white-men-on-transport-for-lon

Sadiq Khan: There are too many white men on Transport for London


London's transport authority is far too dominated by white men, Labour's mayoral candidate Sadiq Khan said today.

There are currently 13 white men on the Transport for London board and just three women. Khan said he would ensure the board better reflected the "diversity" of Londoners if he becomes mayor.

"I will reshape TfL's board," he said during a speech in Brixton this morning.
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Five years of race baiting, good luck with that Londoners.
 
Of course, but how come 'the right candidate' always seems to be a white male when (going by recent exam results), women are now doing better than men in many key subjects?
 
VincentHanna said:
Of course, but how come 'the right candidate' always seems to be a white male when (going by recent exam results), women are now doing better than men in many key subjects?
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Exam results so one small part of it.
Bigger thing at least historically and for a bit longer. Is a large percentage of women have significant time off to have kids and even when they go back to work, work shortened hours and tend to pic jobs that have flexibility, which are usually lower level.

This will change in the coming decades now maternity and paternity leave is pretty much equal.
 
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