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6 Core vs 8 Core in gaming?
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There is never too much of anything in a gaming pc, the next generation of games will continue to demand more and more. Set a sensible budget and stick to it, if you can
the problem with most people is they dont think/.
i am saying most people say buy 6 core now and you are ok.. and after 3 years buy 8 cores .
example if someone buys now one 5600x costs exampple 400 euros and after 3 years buys one 12 core whicj costs 700 euros
so you will have spend 1200 corect>>??> so the best deal is to buy one 12 core chip now and you will be ok for more 4 years..
this i mean..
i am saying most people say buy 6 core now and you are ok.. and after 3 years buy 8 cores .
example if someone buys now one 5600x costs exampple 400 euros and after 3 years buys one 12 core whicj costs 700 euros
so you will have spend 1200 corect>>??> so the best deal is to buy one 12 core chip now and you will be ok for more 4 years..
this i mean..
Yes, if you are keeping your pc for a long haul and you don’t like/want to upgrade it.
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The Ryzen 5 3600 at £180 looks a good move when you can bung more cash at the gpu.
the problem with most people is they dont think/.
i am saying most people say buy 6 core now and you are ok.. and after 3 years buy 8 cores .
example if someone buys now one 5600x costs exampple 400 euros and after 3 years buys one 12 core whicj costs 700 euros
so you will have spend 1200 corect>>??> so the best deal is to buy one 12 core chip now and you will be ok for more 4 years..
this i mean..
Anything will do
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You don't need 8 cores for gaming, not yet anyway. Watch the Gamers Nexus 5600X review for a detailed explanation as to why
Enough to be playable for the next 3 years, easily. Enough to avoid low spikes at all times and avoid any kind of even minor bottleneck, doubtful.
These kind of threads are pretty pointless without listing your expectations though. Some people find 40-60fps more than fine, others will say their experience is ruined at sub 90fps regularly.
These kind of threads are pretty pointless without listing your expectations though. Some people find 40-60fps more than fine, others will say their experience is ruined at sub 90fps regularly.
Console devs have certain CPU IPC and GPU performance at their disposal with the PS5 and XBOX Series X. The XBOX is the better of the two, but it's only running an optimized Zen 2 with no boost clock. Per other discussions, it is a 3700Xish processor but no boost and low power limit. The Zen 3 IPC on the 6-core 5600X at stock, under stock boost, and especially when overclocked will surpass whatever the consoles deliver with "8 cores" and this will be forever. The lack of boost clock will just kill consoles compared to what we can run on PC.
GPU power on the XBOX is lower than the upcoming 6800 (fewer CUs) and the PS5 is even worse. The 6800 is supposed to have 2080TIish performance and the console GPUs will be worse with lower CU count. As we know with gaming, GPU power is far more important than CPU power. Are people trying to tell me the consoles are going to outclass my 5600X and 3080? Not a chance in hell.
GPU power on the XBOX is lower than the upcoming 6800 (fewer CUs) and the PS5 is even worse. The 6800 is supposed to have 2080TIish performance and the console GPUs will be worse with lower CU count. As we know with gaming, GPU power is far more important than CPU power. Are people trying to tell me the consoles are going to outclass my 5600X and 3080? Not a chance in hell.
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The console SOCs also have access to a lot of memory bandwidth. That includes the CPU,so I doubt they will be anywhere as bandwidth starved as those on a PC,hence why they tend to have large L3 caches.
On top of this the consoles have dedicated chips to handle certain things such as audio,etc which on PCs is partially processed in software by the CPU. Then you also have much lighter OSes,and generally much better utilisations of resources. So a PC has to basically brute force things.
On top of this the consoles have dedicated chips to handle certain things such as audio,etc which on PCs is partially processed in software by the CPU. Then you also have much lighter OSes,and generally much better utilisations of resources. So a PC has to basically brute force things.
Listen, getting more than 6 cores is not going to future proof you if all you do is game. I don't know where people are getting this "8 cores will be good in 3 years time" from, game devs will only be optimising cross-platform games for 5-6 cores at most. People are literally making stuff up to justify to themselves why they got the 5800X instead of the 5600X. I just posted this in another thread... But this thread is far more fitting.
There's a lot of misconception going around about the game console's 8 core CPU's, with people comparing them to an 8 core desktop CPU. Consoles do not use all 8 cores for gaming, they use 5-6 at most. The other cores are dedicated to running the console OS among other things.
This is why 6 cores is still more than enough for gaming and will be by the time you upgrade your CPU again. Game devs are not developing for more than 6 cores and won't do until consoles have more than 5-6 cores available to them.
Getting a 5800X to "future proof" yourself for future gaming is a fallacy and will be for quite some time. We're talking 6-7 years if they stick to the current release cycle. Yeah sure there will be games that can take advantage of all 8 cores, but those games are very niche and far and few between. The vast majority of games will run just as well on a 5600X as they would on a 5800X.
Don't be fooled by the hype, more isn't better if you're never going to take full advantage of those extra cores.
There's a lot of misconception going around about the game console's 8 core CPU's, with people comparing them to an 8 core desktop CPU. Consoles do not use all 8 cores for gaming, they use 5-6 at most. The other cores are dedicated to running the console OS among other things.
This is why 6 cores is still more than enough for gaming and will be by the time you upgrade your CPU again. Game devs are not developing for more than 6 cores and won't do until consoles have more than 5-6 cores available to them.
Getting a 5800X to "future proof" yourself for future gaming is a fallacy and will be for quite some time. We're talking 6-7 years if they stick to the current release cycle. Yeah sure there will be games that can take advantage of all 8 cores, but those games are very niche and far and few between. The vast majority of games will run just as well on a 5600X as they would on a 5800X.
Don't be fooled by the hype, more isn't better if you're never going to take full advantage of those extra cores.
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Yeah, I’m thinking along similar lines. 1800X to 5950X
Yeah, consoles can do more with less. Developers have a nice improvement when it comes to SMT, or so I’ve been told.
To add to that, game devs want to make sure games run as well as possible on as many CPU's out there as possible. 8+ core CPU's have a very small market share, even more so now that more and more people are getting into budget PC gaming. Yet another reason why optimising for more than 6 cores is a waste of time and money for most game developers. We need the next round of next gen consoles to push the boundary past 8 cores to see a paradigm shift in PC gaming.
That argument held water back in the DX11 days.
On a budget?
cpu: ryzen 5 5600x
Ram: 16gb 3600mhz
Gpu: Radeon rx6800
Motherboard: any b550 board
Drive: pcie 4 SSD 5GB/s
Technically this pc build wil be a bit stronger than the ps5 but amd doesn't have desktop parts that are a 1:1 match with the consoles, you either have something that's a bit slower or a bit faster and I'd rather go with faster
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Basically what Sweet said. A 6 core such as the 5600x is plenty for gaming now and imo the new few years. Look at the zen3 reviews, most games are only a few fps faster on the 8 and 12 core cpus and thats probably due to the increased clock speed rather than core count.
Personally I'm getting a 5600x now and then when people jump onto AM5 pick up a 5900x or 5950x at a reduced price or second hand
Personally I'm getting a 5600x now and then when people jump onto AM5 pick up a 5900x or 5950x at a reduced price or second hand
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