6 Year old boy thrown 5 floors from Tate Modern Museum in London by 17 year old boy

[he] may have spent up to two hours selecting his victim, Scotland Yard has said.

detectives have asked for anyone who was spotted a young man acting in a "suspicious or worrying" manner in the two hours running up to the incident to contact them.

Bloody hell, so potentially highly pre meditated.
 
The child's age is a blessing in some ways, in that he is probably of an age where bone damage has a far better chance of healing successfully than that of say a 26 year old, but that aside, one has to wonder just what any teenager has in his mind in doing such a terrible act to a kiddie. Fingers crossed the young fella' recovers without too many long term legacies. I await the explanations with interest, but also with some trepidation, given he's allegedly already blaming social services, sounds like a an early chancer doing some well rehearsed chancing, at this moment :( Bonne chance.
 
Interesting vid from Mark on this link https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-49232807

He was there and restrained the mother from climbing over the balcony after her son.

The young man who threw the boy over was also then attacked and then restrained while admitting that he did it.

No one seemed to see the actual throw or shove up and over the railings though.


It’s not important in the slightest, but according to that link, the boy’s mother, (presumably French also), shouted, “Where’s my son, Where’s my son?”
Wouldn’t she have more likely shouted, “Ou est mon fils? Ou est mon fils?” I reiterate, its not important at all.
 
Lots of French people are bilingual with English. Interesting observation, but probably not that unusual for her to proclaim in English if she is bilingual and wanted to get the attention of as many people as possible given the current locality that she's in.
 
"The teenage suspect - who cannot be named for legal reasons - is thought to suffer from schizophrenia and is normally only allowed out of a secure home when accompanied by two carers. The 17-year-old was arrested suspicion of attempted murder and blamed social services for his actions. He was stalking other children seconds before the attack. A former carer said the young man was 'one of the most difficult and challenging mental patients I've ever encountered.' Police are investigating whether the teenager escaped from the secure unit or managed to get free of one of his carers."
 
"The teenage suspect - who cannot be named for legal reasons - is thought to suffer from schizophrenia and is normally only allowed out of a secure home when accompanied by two carers. The 17-year-old was arrested suspicion of attempted murder and blamed social services for his actions. He was stalking other children seconds before the attack. A former carer said the young man was 'one of the most difficult and challenging mental patients I've ever encountered.' Police are investigating whether the teenager escaped from the secure unit or managed to get free of one of his carers."
Apparently he is also "scarily intelligent" @Dis86
 
Apparently he is also "scarily intelligent" @Dis86

Could you explain how your solution of giving poor people money stops schizophrenics from wanting to kill people? This is sounding more like yet another bit of social service incompetence to me!

Also source for him being incredibly intelligent required.
 
Could you explain how your solution of giving poor people money stops schizophrenics from wanting to kill people? This is sounding more like yet another bit of social service incompetence to me!

Also source for him being incredibly intelligent required.
That would be the social service which has had massive funding cuts over the past few governments.....?

Remember, we were only talking about intelligence as you wanted to sterilise stupid people. The point was that often, these psycho killers are actually pretty intelligent, hence your sterilisations would not achieve their stated aim.

Source is, unfortunately, the 'former carer' quoted in The Sun - same as the quoted post.
 
That would be the social service which has had massive funding cuts over the past few governments.....?

Remember, we were only talking about intelligence as you wanted to sterilise stupid people. The point was that often, these psycho killers are actually pretty intelligent, hence your sterilisations would not achieve their stated aim.

Source is, unfortunately, the 'former carer' quoted in The Sun - same as the quoted post.

It could well get rid of incompetent carers who can't keep track of such people or let them out in public. Plus if we have fewer people requiring benefits/soaking up resources, who are not met contributors, then we'd have more to spend on mental health care and fewer people taking up those resources. Win-win.
 
It could well get rid of incompetent carers who can't keep track of such people or let them out in public.

Carers get paid an absolute pittance to do one of the hardest jobs going. At one end of the spectrum Dealing with old people with dementia, crapping themselves and generally being in a confused stage and at the other end of the spectrum, strong teenagers who have extreme mental health issues.

If they were purposefully incompetent then fair enough, but it's a bit early to demonise them for this.

If this 17 year old was kept in a secure unit and escaped, then questions need to be asked.
 
That would be the social service which has had massive funding cuts over the past few governments.....?

Remember, we were only talking about intelligence as you wanted to sterilise stupid people. The point was that often, these psycho killers are actually pretty intelligent, hence your sterilisations would not achieve their stated aim.

Source is, unfortunately, the 'former carer' quoted in The Sun - same as the quoted post.

Sadly the usual suspects Katie Hopkins and her cronies are already blaming this on the Mayor of London and Muslim immigration...:rolleyes:

 
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There's always someone more "intelligent".

However it's not just Intelligence it's having everything else in working order that makes you successfully able to be a part of society.

This is just a very disturbed person that shouldn't have been part of society because he was a very real threat to other people.
 
Firstly, I never mentioned eugenics, so I don't know why you're so upset with me...
You did talk about people being "not fit to breed", though. Which is kinda eugenics 101.

Also, it remains a whole lotta stupid. I appreciate the poem though - it swayed me a little :)
 
Carers get paid an absolute pittance to do one of the hardest jobs going. At one end of the spectrum Dealing with old people with dementia, crapping themselves and generally being in a confused stage and at the other end of the spectrum, strong teenagers who have extreme mental health issues.

If they were purposefully incompetent then fair enough, but it's a bit early to demonise them for this.

If this 17 year old was kept in a secure unit and escaped, then questions need to be asked.

This term of secure unit will be causing a lot of confusion. In terms of children, the most high risk are usually placed in their own house with 2 full time carers (2 for their own safety) they will be allowed out with supervision, but often will be allowed out on curfew by themselves.

The only children who are physically locked up in psychiatric wards are those who are suicidal or severe self harm risks. And trust me the places are barely in double figures across the country. Those children who are deemed a risk to others have no provision for enforced detention until they have actually harmed someone.
 
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It's a commonly used figure of speech, genius. Like when people say someone 'really shouldn't have kids' - They're not suggesting we should go chemically castrate them, or anything.
Well, the dude that picked up the baton from you, @Dis86, literally followed it down the eugenics line. A bit of a "I'm not saying he's a racist, but the racists think he's a racist" type situation, perhaps?

Oh?
Go on, then - Explain why you think parents should not be held accountable for their poor parenting skills?
I think your remit is far too wide - as I said, it's perhaps 60% of everyone. That's a stupid 'targeted' population to mete out accountability to. It's also a pretty nebulous concept, good and bad parenting.
 
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