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6870 is here! for £170, WTF?? HELP!!

Stanners said:
On the same hand, when people had the 4870 and that cost was what £200 on release, think i know i will get a new GFX card. Lets see, Oh the 5870 is £300, fair enough i want the best. Next, guess what... I fancy a new GFX card, Oh look the new ATI's have dropped back in price just like my awesome 4870, £200 for a 6870.. Bargain!

We can all spin anything we like
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That person will think cool i can get a 6970 for the the same £300 Bargain! because he wants the best at his budget & not because he likes to stick to numbers.

If that person was money conscious he would not be having the 5870 in the first place as there was better performance per pound else where.
 
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Ok where can i buy this 6970 from, oh i cant. The new ATI cards have come out and i can get a 6870 for £200, just like my 4870 cost before my £300 5870. Off average joe goes to get his new misleading(performance) gfx card. You can um and ar all you like there are a lot of people like this, i spoke to one on Sunday(Not this particular scenario)
 
Stanners said:
Ok where can i buy this 6970 from, oh i cant. The new ATI cards have come out and i can get a 6870 for £200, just like my 4870 cost before my £300 5870. Off average joe goes to get his new misleading(performance) gfx card. You can um and ar all you like there are a lot of people like this, i spoke to one on Sunday(Not this particular scenario)
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And i have already covered that aspect.

Final8y said:
The biggest mistake that AMD did here like some others have said is that they did not have to full line up released at the same time.

Some one who bought the high end ATI 5870 £350 a year or so & said right im going to spend another £350 high end ATI if i can on the new cards.

ect... lower ends
6870 £204
6970 £350 <--- is the more likely choice as that persons want the best they can get for the budget they have.
ect.. higher ends
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So yes i have already said that in something that you have already replied to.
 
So you did mate.

Don't get me wrong all scenarios are possible, i think it is a very good case of marketing, but i suppose thats what both Nvidia and ATI probably pay millions a year for!
 
Stanners said:
So you did mate.

Don't get me wrong all scenarios are possible, i think it is a very good case of marketing, but i suppose thats what both Nvidia and ATI probably pay millions a year for!
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Indeed they all are but if AMD did the full line up like they should have done then the one that all the fuss is about at the moment would be the least likely although possible because you cannot idiot proof against everyone.
 
t@xman said:
Oh, I totally agree that the naming is confusing, and maybe they should have put a tad more thought into it. However, I don't think it's the end of the world, and the sort of people that upgrade gfx cards are exactly the sort of people that would look on google or ask their "friend that knows", which just about renders the problem moot.
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And again, I agree. No one can deny the naming scheme is confusing whether people have to ask or not. They shouldn't have to ask. See it is fairly obvious a 5870 is superior to a 4870 and that a 4870 is superior to a 3870 so why mess it up with a 6870 not a good as a 5870! Surely everyone can see the point being made here!

For example. VW release the Golf 2010 then the next year release the Golf 2011 which is slower and has a worse interior. You would think what are they playing at? Surely you expect year on year improvement when utilising something as powerful as a well known naming scheme.

kylew said:
Ooh, a bit of fame to go with your Physics expertise. :o :p
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Any reason why you are trolling?

reflux said:
Flame wars surrounding a new GPU release.

As it is, as it was, and as it ever shall be.
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Unfortuantly I have to agree. It will always be the same until people learn the facts.

I think there is more than enough people in this thread that agree with me, that believe ATI/AMDs new naming scheme is misleading regardless of the target market audience etc.
 
Stanners said:
Ok where can i buy this 6970 from, oh i cant. The new ATI cards have come out and i can get a 6870 for £200, just like my 4870 cost before my £300 5870. Off average joe goes to get his new misleading(performance) gfx card. You can um and ar all you like there are a lot of people like this, i spoke to one on Sunday(Not this particular scenario)
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Are there really people who spend £200 on a computer component and don't know exactly what they're getting? Surely if you spend that much on something you do a bit of research first?

Naming schemes aren't set in stone. If a customer assumed it would never change or be inconsistent, then perhaps it is as much their fault as AMD's.
 
I know its a fair bit more (for now anyway) - but what do people think of the "new-ish" Gigabyte GTX470 SOC ? looks a very nice indeed card, quite heavily overclocked (700 core) and pretty low temps it seems from reviews, it even draws less power than a stock 470 .. one review I saw had it OC'd to 830 core which puts it almost at GTX480 speeds ?

and most importantly seems to be very very quiet ? about same as a stock 460 768mb version

anyone have one ?
 
FoxEye said:
Are there really people who spend £200 on a computer component and don't know exactly what they're getting? Surely if you spend that much on something you do a bit of research first?
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You would be surprised. When it comes to researching before buying something so expensive, PC's are the exception to the rule for Joe average.

Most people are clueless about computers, and will look at the names 6870 and 5870 and think that the 6870 must be better because its a higher number.
 
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FoxEye said:
Are there really people who spend £200 on a computer component and don't know exactly what they're getting? Surely if you spend that much on something you do a bit of research first?

Naming schemes aren't set in stone. If a customer assumed it would never change or be inconsistent, then perhaps it is as much their fault as AMD's.
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You are missing my point, You are right naming schemes are not set in stone. But if you use a bit of smoke and mirrors you can catch people out and get a few more sales from people who do not know much better. As i have said it is marketing and it is time people stopped been in denial about it!
 
oh agreed amd naming scheme should be spat on. Horrible really.

as for tesselation. Give me a good game that takes use of it. Right now due to consoles dx9 is really all that matters. Not much difference between that and dx10 even.
 
NathWraith said:
kylew said:
Ooh, a bit of fame to go with your Physics expertise. :o :p
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Any reason why you are trolling?
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Seriously? :confused: I don't see Rroff getting really offended by that. It's called making fun, light hearted and all that, you know? So no, I wasn't trolling, I was joking. Go look in GD, you'll see things ten times worse being used as jokes and banter. I hope you're not jumping on that down to your lack of response to our posts earlier on.
 
I paid £179 for my 4870 on release, checked my invoice, 25/06/2008, wasnt from ocuk though

Stanners said:
On the same hand, when people had the 4870 and the cost was what £200 on release, think i know i will get a new GFX card. Lets see, Oh the 5870 is £300, fair enough i want the best. Next, guess what... I fancy a new GFX card, Oh look the new ATI's have dropped back in price just like my awesome 4870, £200 for a 6870.. Bargain!

We can all spin anything we like
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kylew said:
Seriously? :confused: I don't see Rroff getting really offended by that. It's called making fun, light hearted and all that, you know? So no, I wasn't trolling, I was joking. Go look in GD, you'll see things ten times worse being used as jokes and banter. I hope you're not jumping on that down to your lack of response to our posts earlier on.
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My deepest apologies for not persistantly breast feeding you replies here.

You don't come across as light hearted or "fun" just pedantic and overtly critical.

Just accept the fact the new AMD names are misleading/confusing/unclear and then leave me alone!
 
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