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6900k or 6850K for new PC

b4z said:
6850K = £575.99 [ocuk price]

6700K = £329.99 [ocuk price]

Price difference = £246

Midian, I want you to now come up with a valid non emotionally charged reason why you want the 6850K over the 6700K?

And why you are willing to pay £246 more for less performance whilst Gaming?

You stated in the opening post this build is exclusively for Gaming.

I look forward to your response :)
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Well the reason I did not mention the 6700k as it was not in the configurator for the original spec I used for the pc. I have said in this forum that I am not really that much of a tech guy, I try to keep up on some things not all.

And to be honest I do not have to justify any decision I make to you, If I want to spend £245 more of my own money on something I will do mate. I do not see how it affects you.

There have been some great suggestions in this thread and I appreciate them all, but if I was to do every single one of them I would have about 7 cases, 6 CPU,s Ect.

My build has changed quite a bit and I am happy, apparantly you are not, but that is life.
 
Midian said:
[..] *RAM: 32GB (4x8GB) Corsair DDR4 Vengeance LED 2666mhz
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The speed of the memory has a surprising effect on gaming in some games. That memory is relatively slow for DDR4.

I think I am happy with this spec, and thanks to everyone for pointing me in the right direction.
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A 6850K is almost certainly not the right direction:

1) Performance for your stated task. It's worse for gaming than a 6700K.
2) Appearance. You can't see the CPU anyway because it's under the cooler.
3) Emotional value. There isn't any - they're new CPUs without any emotional value.

So the only way that the 6850K is the "right direction" for you is if the direction you're looking for is simply to spend more money solely for the sake of doing so.

If spending money for no relevant purpose is what you want to do and you're aware of that and happy with it and you think it honours your grandmother's memory/soul/spirit/whatever, then a 6850K is the right direction for you. Otherwise, it isn't. Your choice.
 
1. I never said there was any emotion to the CPU.
2. My initial question was about 2 CPU's, A or B and what one out of either of those would be best for gaming.
3. At no point during my initial question did I actually ask anyone to critique my build
 
I have a 6600 and a 6700 skylake and it's about 3 fps diff on the games I play. Your nans gonna be chuffed.

You should spend money on cooling and or a binned 6700k that will do 5ghz. 8pack system might offer this?
I dunno how well u can oc that much ram too I'd go 32gb of absolutely top of the range
 
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People need to stop mentioning my nan, it is insensitive considering the situation.

I am trying to do something nice and for the right reasons, I could not care less if you like it or not.

I am happy with my build and grateful to the kind souls who offered advice to me and who were polite and respectful to me whilst doing so.

I have asked for this thread to be closed, because it is starting to get me down now.
 
You know what, from now on, I am not going to be looking at this forum, I am done with it.
There are some people in this community that could do with a lesson in manners and humility, and need to learn to respect people choices.
 
Midian said:
People need to stop mentioning my nan, it is insensitive considering the situation.

I am trying to do something nice and for the right reasons, I could not care less if you like it or not.

I am happy with my build and grateful to the kind souls who offered advice to me and who were polite and respectful to me whilst doing so.

I have asked for this thread to be closed, because it is starting to get me down now.
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I didn't comment initially to avoid being 'that guy' who'd critique the build you were set on given the scenario.

However since others are trying to help, I'll add my name to the hat.

You should listen to what these folks are trying to advise you.

If your primary focus is gaming, you're getting good advice and your initial build is very bad value for money (and indeed slower than something cheaper will be). You don't need the 6+ core platform for gaming.

If you want to spend this inheritance on a PC, then if I were you I would split it in half (or basically not spend all of it immediately), go for a 6700k system which is highly overclocked, with 3866 MHz RAM, and leave the remainder of the money to buy a 1080 Ti or top AMD Vega card when they come out.

It'll end up being a lot better than what your build is.
 
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Personally I think the 6 core route is better going forward. It's like when the dual core e6600 was considered better than the 4 core q6600. It was better for games initially, but then the games caught up and the q6600 was by far the better option. You should look at the potential of the cpu as well as current performance.
 
Morg said:
Personally I think the 6 core route is better going forward. It's like when the dual core e6600 was considered better than the 4 core q6600. It was better for games initially, but then the games caught up and the q6600 was by far the better option. You should look at the potential of the cpu as well as current performance.
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It's slightly different this time though. Everything was moving to 4 cores, i.e. 4 cores were getting affordable and the install base was going to be large.

I doubt we'll see the majority of games use more than 4 cores until there's a 6 core on the mainstream platform. This may be the i7 8700k Cannonlake.
 
Yeah true, although I would hope with the consoles on the (admittedly slow) 6 core setup that we'd see more games taking advantage.
 
Midian said:
You know what, from now on, I am not going to be looking at this forum, I am done with it.
There are some people in this community that could do with a lesson in manners and humility, and need to learn to respect people choices.
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You've stirred all kinds of crazy up in your first thread :D

Whilst I respect your choice, after all it's your money you can do with it as you please - understand you came to an enthusiasts forum and gave them the option of picking between two "not great" choices for the job at hand.

It would be a bit like strolling into a car forum and asking which Lamborghini you should buy for going to work and back via some B roads.
 
Midian said:
You know what, from now on, I am not going to be looking at this forum, I am done with it.
There are some people in this community that could do with a lesson in manners and humility, and need to learn to respect people choices.
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You've been more rude, aggressive and disrespectful than anyone else in this thread. That's why I made my initial response so carefully placatory - I was drawing on my experience working the door at a club and dealing with people being difficult by using speech to de-escalate the situation.

An analagous situation would be someone going into a car forum, asking whether a McLaren P1 or a Porsche 918 would be better for off-roading and biting the heads off people who said that a Range Rover would do that better than either and was much cheaper.
 
AllBodies said:
It's slightly different this time though. Everything was moving to 4 cores, i.e. 4 cores were getting affordable and the install base was going to be large.

I doubt we'll see the majority of games use more than 4 cores until there's a 6 core on the mainstream platform. This may be the i7 8700k Cannonlake.
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I think there's definitely a trend towards more use of parallelism in games, enough to make it at least somewhat sensible to consider a 6-core CPU if you're building a gaming rig you expect to still be using several years from now. On the other hand, you'd still probably be better off buying a 4-core now and a new 6-core a few years from now, when they're mainstream. There's bound to be some improvement over that time, probably in both CPU and memory.

There's an interesting article on Eurogamer on how an i5 2500K compares to i5 6xxx CPUs in current games, but it also looks (to some extent) at how much current games benefit from an i7 over an i5. That's not the same as extra cores, but it does indicate that they are using more than 4 threads to an extent that isn't negligable.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...it-finally-time-to-upgrade-your-core-i5-2500k
 
Honestly, no one is trying to troll you here or anything. Listen to the people in the know.
Why even bother coming on here to ask for opinions to rebuff everything anyone else mentions that may be best?

It's your money and ultimately your decision but these people who have answered you are only trying to help.
 
Spending less on a build that's actually more game-capable and leaving yourself change for another substantial upgrade in a few years has always got to be better than spunking all the money on some nonsense machine that you can say is POWER for a few months and use very little of that available power as you're just gaming.

It's pretty stupid. Stagger the cash over a few years maintaining a good machine which will provide a more lasting legacy than a silly no expense spared trophy that takes all the money and leaves you looking like a gimp come upgrade season when you don't have any cash to spend. :)
 
Angilion said:
You've been more rude, aggressive and disrespectful than anyone else in this thread. That's why I made my initial response so carefully placatory - I was drawing on my experience working the door at a club and dealing with people being difficult by using speech to de-escalate the situation.
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I disagree as I think some people could have chose their words more carefuly, and maybe in responce I could have as well.

The place where I was thinking of getting the PC built did not have the 6700k as a choice in the configurator, I did mentioned that a few times.

However people definately seem to want me to go for the 6700k so I will go for it and get the PC from someplace else, now I need to rethink my build it seems. and work out what RAM I should get and what motherboard.
 
Ok so taking in some of the advice given , is the kind of spec I should be going for.

Case: Undecided

CPU: 6700k

Motherboard: Maximus VIII Formula

RAM: 16gb G.Skill Trident Z

PSU: EVGA Supernova 1000

GPU: SLI MSI Geforce gtx 1080 Seahawk X (AIO watercooled)

SSD (OS): Samsung 256GB SM961 M.2 SSD

SSD: 1tb Samsung 850 Evo

SSD: 1tb Samsung 850 Evo

OPTICAL DRIVE: Internal or External Blue-Ray & DVD (depends on case)

LIGHTS: NZXT Hue & RGB color changing dual channel internal led controller

OS: Windows 10

Anyone see any glaring problems with that set up?
 
Midian said:
I disagree as I think some people could have chose their words more carefuly, and maybe in responce I could have as well.
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People are just trying to help you bud. They're giving you advice, some of which know a lot about what they're preaching. At the end of the day the final choice is yours, but take into consideration what people are saying especially when they're taking their time to respond to your thread. It's not so much criticising your choice, they're just telling you what could be better.
 
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