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6900k or 6850K for new PC

Midian said:
I am not going for the 6900k :P

My build is currently-

Case: Undecided

CPU: 6700k

Motherboard: Maximus VIII Hero

RAM: 16gb G.Skill Trident Z

PSU: EVGA Supernova 1000

GPU: SLI MSI Geforce gtx 1080 Seahawk X (AIO watercooled)

SSD (OS): Samsung 256GB SM961 M.2 SSD

SSD: 1tb Samsung 850 Evo

SSD: 1tb Samsung 850 Evo

OPTICAL DRIVE: Internal or External Blue-Ray & DVD (depends on case)

LIGHTS: NZXT Hue & RGB color changing dual channel internal led controller

OS: Windows 10
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For a case, are you wanting small or large? Or don't you really care?

And is quietness your main concern or interesting looks?

For your motherboard, I'd consider this one instead https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...cket-1151-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-54b-gi.html

It supports faster RAM and has 10 Gb/s USB 3.1 ports instead of 5 Gb/s. And 2 3.1 ports instead of 1. And also a U.2 connector in addition to the M.2 one.

Then I'd get 2 sets of this RAM for 16GB https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...l-kit-black-txd48g3866hc18adc0-my-067-tg.html

Also I'd go for the 1TB Polaris SSD https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sams...3.0-x-4-nvme-solid-state-drive-hd-226-sa.html You're spending this much money anyway, and the 1TB is a lot cheaper per GB and also a fair bit faster because it has more memory chips so there's more parallelism (look at the IOPS difference)

Also SLI is up to you, but know what SLI support is pretty bad at the moment, so there won't be many games that it'll be active on. Even DOOM doesn't do SLI. Plus even at 3440x1440 there are very few games you need it at. Even the Witcher 3 will run above 60 fps on one overclocked 1080. Also if it's a choice of 1080 SLI and no money leftover, or one 1080 and upgrading to 1080 Ti later, definitely drop the 1080 SLI. Having one 1080 Ti will be better than 1080 SLI in the long-run, and for a more consistent experience.

Then if you do go for one 1080, you wouldn't need watercooling to keep them cool while being close together, so I'd recommend this one https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pali...dr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-03c-pl.html that one will actually be even quieter than the seahawk because it doesn't have fans + a pump competing for noise, and the cooler is ludicrously quiet (also shuts off its fan below 60 degrees, so no noise at all unless gaming)

A case you should consider is this https://www.overclockers.co.uk/nzxt...husiast-tower-case-matte-black-ca-125-nx.html this is assuming you're going for quietness and don't care about size. That case has room for anything you'd want to put in it and is sound dampened. However it's not good if you want tons of LEDs and flashy stuff.

Also for a power supply. You don't actually need 1000W even for 1080 SLI (or even 1080 Ti SLI) so in that price range I'd go for a lower Watt Platinum supply instead of higher Watt Gold supply. Platinum will lower your chances of Coil whine even more than Gold. This is a very good one https://www.overclockers.co.uk/supe...platinum-power-supply-gunmetal-ca-049-sf.html

OR if you want to spend more on a supply, and get the best possible while keeping 1000W, then go for this https://www.overclockers.co.uk/supe...us-titanium-power-supply-black-ca-027-sf.html Titanium is the best rating you can get at the moment.


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EDITED: Added power supply suggestion.
 
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Cheers for the advice.

1. I would prefer a large case with a window, (thinking In WIn 909 at the moment) I am a big guy 6ft.5 so the more space I have to work in if needs be the better, had smaller cases before and a nightmare hehe.

2. Not bothered about quietness really, as long as it isnt stupidly loud, looks are something I would prefer way more as it will sit on my desk next to me.

3. Well if that Motherboard is better I would happily change to it.

4. I definately want to try SLI, not ever done it before and if it comes to the point I do not need it, I can quickly upgrade the wifes PC and sell the other one towards a 1080ti in the future.
 
Promise us you'll get a build log going. I love it when someone has the cash to get a stonking good PC on the go :D

You'll be a happy boy when you get this up and running. You considered keyboard and mouse options yet??
 
Midian - I think you're definitely heading in the right direction for a pure gaming build. That said, having narrowed it down to a 6700K/Z170 build, I think some of the recommendations you're going to get from the forum from here on are going to be more personal preference than anything else (mine included!). So, the best thing is probably for you to try and prioritise the specs/features that matter most to you.

Personally, and not wishing to offend AllBodies here, I'd actually favour some of the parts you'd previously selected. Although I agree that stumping up the extra for the 1TB Samsung Polaris M.2 is probably a smart move - I'm looking at grabbing one of these in the not-too-distant future myself.

I would still take either an Hero VIII Alpha or the Formula over the Gigabyte Designare. While the Gigabyte definitely offers more bang for buck in terms of spec, as a Gigabyte (X99) owner myself, I feel they are behind MSI, ASRock, and especially Asus in terms of UEFI Bios. I know that Gigabyte have completely revamped their Bios on X99 - no idea on the Z170 front - but they're still slightly trailing the rest of the pack in my eyes. The Asus Z170 ROG boards (along with the ASRock OC Formula) are class leading in terms of overclocking and memory tuning (although I have no idea how important this may or may not be to you).

I would take the Alpha over the plain Hero VIII because it has U.2 and Aura RGB headers. The RGB Headers mean you can buy CableMod RGB strips, and control all your lighting through Asus Aura software. This eliminates the need for the NZXT Hue - and will make for a cleaner build. Pretty sure the Gigabyte also has similar headers...so that goes for the Designare board, too.

Memory wise, I'd go with the Trident Z F4-3600C15D-16GTZ kit. While this is 'slower' than the Team Group kit/s, it features far tighter timings. While the Team Groups 3866 were some of the best when they launched, the Tridents are better binned - and should tune better when overclocked. Also, a single 2 Dimm kit will put less strain on your IMC, and without the risk of two non-matching kits refusing to play ball together.

In terms of power supply, I think you're splitting hairs when it comes to Platinum vs Titanium. But if you want the very best of the best, check out the EVGA T2 series. EVGA G2/P2/T2 are rebranded Superflowers, anyway. But I'd go EVGA for the extra warranty, and much larger selection of braided cables.

This would be my build:

Case: Inwin 909/Phanteks Enthoo Primo/CaseLabs Mercury S8

CPU: 6700k

Motherboard: Maximus VIII Hero Alpha/Formula

RAM: 16gb G.Skill Trident Z F4-3600C15D-16GTZ

PSU: EVGA Supernova P2/T2 1000

GPU: SLI MSI Geforce gtx 1080 Seahawk X (AIO watercooled)

SSD (OS): Samsung 1TB SM961 M.2 SSD (with Angelbird Wings PX1 Adaptor...to prevent throttling and cover the green PCB!)

SSD: 1tb Samsung 850 Evo

SSD: 1tb Samsung 850 Evo

LIGHTS: CableMod RGB strips

Maybe a set of CableMod braided cables?

This would just be along the lines of what I would personally go for...but there are lots of good options. It's just a case of balancing overclocking/looks/features, etc and going with what works for you.

Sorry for the long post! :o
 
Hi Guwange thanks for the info.

I watched a bunch of you tube videos after your post, and I do really like the RGB lighting and the cablemod strips. And as you pointed out that will eliminate the need for the NZXT Hue and if I was to throw in some ThermalTake Riings the RGB lighting would be sorted.
Having had a decent look at them in the reviews I am now leaning towards the formula as I also prefer the way it looks out of the 3. (no offence to anyone who owns the others.)
 
If you do have a change of heart on your build and decide to go back to an x99 mobo I would suggest looking at the haswell-e cpu's. Their ipc is slightly down on broadwell-e but they tend to over clock better and so a 5820k, 5930k or 5960x may be a good buy. If going down the sli route with a m.2 ssd buy one of the 40 lane cpu's (5930k or 5960x)
 
I am going to take the advice and go the single GFX route, as it does make sense for me to go for a single 1080 and then upgrading to a 1080TI in the future, So I have swapped out the Seahawk for the EVGA FTW.
I have no idea about the ram really so leaning slightly towards the Xtreem's at the moment, its a shame they dont have led's or strobes on them though to match all the rgb lighting lol.

Here is the current spec

Case:Phanteks Enthoo Primo

CPU: 6700k

CPU COOLER: Corsair Hydro Series H115i

MOTHERBOARD: Maximus VIII Formula

FANS: Thermaltake Riings

LIGHTS: CableMod RGB strips

RAM: Team Group Xtreem 16GB (4x4GB) DDR4

PSU: EVGA Supernova P2 1000w 80 Plus Platinum

PSU CABLE KIT: Alchemy 2.0 Black/Red cables

GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW

SSD (OS): Samsung 1TB SM961 M.2 SSD (with Angelbird Wings PX1 Adaptor...to prevent throttling and cover the green PCB!)

SSD: 1tb Samsung 850 Evo

SSD: 1tb Samsung 850 Evo

Because this pc is not going to cost anywhere near the old spec, I think I may also get myself a nice comfy chair as well now DX RACER black/carbon King Series :)
 
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I have apologised for my actions, I made a mistake in regards to some peoples tones, and I cannot help that some posts also offended me. But like I said I can do nothing about that, but I can do something about my own actions and therefore I apologised.
 
The thing is, the actual level of help you all have given me towards my spec has been greatly recieved, I thank each and everyone one of you. My pc build would never have come so far and your community has done you proud.
I never made the best start to this thread, I did not see that people were actually trying to change my build for the right reasons.
So regardless if people continue to help me or not I thank you.
 
Midian said:
I am going to take the advice and go the single GFX route, as it does make sense for me to go for a single 1080 and then upgrading to a 1080TI in the future, So I have swapped out the Seahawk for the EVGA FTW.
I have no idea about the ram really so leaning slightly towards the Xtreem's at the moment, its a shame they dont have led's or strobes on them though to match all the rgb lighting lol.

Here is the current spec

Case:Phanteks Enthoo Primo

CPU: 6700k

CPU COOLER: Corsair Hydro Series H115i

MOTHERBOARD: Maximus VIII Formula

FANS: Thermaltake Riings

LIGHTS: CableMod RGB strips

RAM: Team Group Xtreem 16GB (4x4GB) DDR4

PSU: EVGA Supernova P2 1000w 80 Plus Platinum

PSU CABLE KIT: Alchemy 2.0 Black/Red cables

GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW

SSD (OS): Samsung 1TB SM961 M.2 SSD (with Angelbird Wings PX1 Adaptor...to prevent throttling and cover the green PCB!)

SSD: 1tb Samsung 850 Evo

SSD: 1tb Samsung 850 Evo

Because this pc is not going to cost anywhere near the old spec, I think I may also get myself a nice comfy chair as well now DX RACER black/carbon King Series :)
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Good choice on the GPU, the EVGA cooler is top tier for cooling and quietness, and also it's a dual-slot cooler. The other top-tier coolers are triple slot. So more room.

Also I do think the leaving money to upgrade to the 1080 Ti (or AMD Vega if it turns out to be better) is a good idea. Particularly if you might get into virtual reality later. A more powerful single card is definitely a safer bet for VR at the moment, than 2 less powerful ones. And just more generally it guarantees you're getting 100% out of your GPU at all times, instead of just when games have good SLI support.

To go with your H115 cooler, you might want to get the best thermal paste currently available https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ther...ance-thermal-paste-5.5g-1.5-ml-th-001-tg.html instead of the paste that comes with the H115. It'll shave off another ~2-4 degrees under overclocked load. And every little helps :D

Also good idea on the chair with some of the money you've saved. Those chairs are supposed to be amazingly comfy. I make do with a Markus chair from the favourite Swedish flatpack store.
 
I would go for the X99 PC. If you upgrade the CPU + motherboard every 12 months, then the 6700K will be fine but the longer you plan to keep the PC the more beneficial the X99 platform will be. The X99 would also be better if you like to record/edit gameplay videos and things like that.
 
Well I won't be doing any recording or editing or things like that, just pure gaming really. However I definately do not want to be upgrading the Mobo and CPU constantly, The only upgrading I want to worry about for as long as possible is graphics.
 
Midian said:
Well I won't be doing any recording or editing or things like that, just pure gaming really. However I definately do not want to be upgrading the Mobo and CPU constantly, The only upgrading I want to worry about for as long as possible is graphics.
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I think you'll be as fine as is reasonably possible in that respect. Socket 1151 is a new platform and will be used for at least 2 generations of CPUs (Skylake and Kaby Lake).

Many people are still gaming just fine with an i5 2500K, which was a midrange CPU over 5 years ago. You're buying the top of the range of the most recent model of CPU. It's very unlikely to be too slow in the near future.

You will, of course, have to upgrade the motherboard and CPU at some point if you continue gaming, but that would be true of any platform. It's the nature of gaming on a PC.
 
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