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7700K --> 9700K / 9900K

OP, ask this question on any tech forum and most people will tell you that you’re fine with what you have - and that is definetly the case for most single player games.

But as a Battlefield fanatic / Multiplayer gamer I’ve been itching to drop my 4770K quad im favour of an 8-core (9900k) for ages now... I recently did that and it’s the single best upgrade I’ve done in a long time. *Minimum* frame rates are massively improved, especially during hectic 64 player matches - everything feels so silky smooth when the really action heats up!

Frostbite Engine figuratively eats CPU cores for dinner (yummy!)

So it totally depends on what kind of games you’re into, I knew my quad had reached its limit in BF1 and I’m glad I didn’t listen to conventional wisdom and stick with what I had (as fantastic a chip as the 4770K is)..
 
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I don't play BF1 or anything that's maxing my 4c/8t 4770k, and I'm still agonising over upgrade. Not that I think the CPU upgrade to 8700/9700/9900 would give much benefits, just because this Z87 motherboard is looking really long in the tooth. No nVMe, no USB 3.1 (although that could easily be fixed), still DDR3 etc etc.

But I'm struggling with the concept of ripping it all out of the case and upgrading, when I don't really need to. I used to upgrade yearly, but this system has lasted more than 4 years, with graphics card/SDD upgrades of course. The choice between 6c12t, 8c8t and 8c16t is not helping btw. and 16 or 32GB RAM? Arrgh....
 
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OnlyMe said:
I don't play BF1 or anything that's maxing my 4c/8t 4770k, and I'm still agonising over upgrade. Not that I think the CPU upgrade to 8700/9700/9900 would give much benefits, just because this Z87 motherboard is looking really long in the tooth. No nVMe, no USB 3.1 (although that could easily be fixed), still DDR3 etc etc.

But I'm struggling with the concept of ripping it all out of the case and upgrading, when I don't really need to. I used to upgrade yearly, but this system has lasted more than 4 years, with graphics card/SDD upgrades of course. The choice between 6c12t, 8c8t and 8c16t is not helping btw. and 16 or 32GB RAM? Arrgh....
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Sounds like it’s definitely not upgrade time for you then!
 
I have same processor and res as OP and I don't think you would get any real benefit. Gonna sit this one out probably until ddr5
 
X-Mikuru_Beam-X said:
...as a Battlefield fanatic / Multiplayer gamer I’ve been itching to drop my 4770K quad im favour of an 8-core (9900k) for ages now... I recently did that and it’s the single best upgrade I’ve done in a long time. *Minimum* frame rates are massively improved, especially during hectic 64 player matches - everything feels so silky smooth when the really action heats up!

Frostbite Engine figuratively eats CPU cores for dinner (yummy!)

So it totally depends on what kind of games you’re into, I knew my quad had reached its limit in BF1 and I’m glad I didn’t listen to conventional wisdom and stick with what I had (as fantastic a chip as the 4770K is)..
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Thanks for this post, it's been pretty helpful to read because I'm in a similar situation.

I've been playing on an i5 2500k (oc'd @ 4.5Ghz), 8Gb DDR2 800mhz RAM and GTX970s in SLI. Using a 1440p @ 144hz Gsync monitor. I recently decided to replace the SLI setup as too many of the games I regularly play don't support it (BFV, PUBG, Rocket League, Monster Hunter Worlds). I purchased a 1070 Ti OC for a net cost of £180 after I sold the 970s. For the money spent it was a great boost, allowing me to play RL & MHW back at 1440p (I had to go 1080p for frames), boost quality settings, and get a good FPS boost as well.

Whilst the same is true for the PUBG and BFV in terms of resolution and quality boost, I'm getting zero extra FPS. Unsurprisingly, my CPU monitor showed it locked at 100% usage during play. In BFV in particular, multiplayer action regularly falls to 35-55 FPS which is really hard to play, and worst still there is stutters which can bring it to 15-25 FPS - always during a fire fight when makes aiming (and surviving) near impossible.

The 1070 Ti upgrade was always meant to be a temporary upgrade for a few bucks until a full PC upgrade in a year (waiting on RTX 20XX successor), but now I'm thinking that a CPU/Mobo/RAM upgrade might be essential for multiplayer games such as those mentioned. Was thinking of i8700k, decent mid-range Mobo, and 16GB of DDR4 3000mhz (with 1070 Ti being replaced down the line).

Any thoughts on this are much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
 
SirPsychoZe0 said:
Whilst the same is true for the PUBG and BFV in terms of resolution and quality boost, I'm getting zero extra FPS. Unsurprisingly, my CPU monitor showed it locked at 100% usage during play. In BFV in particular, multiplayer action regularly falls to 35-55 FPS which is really hard to play, and worst still there is stutters which can bring it to 15-25 FPS - always during a fire fight when makes aiming (and surviving) near impossible.

The 1070 Ti upgrade was always meant to be a temporary upgrade for a few bucks until a full PC upgrade in a year (waiting on RTX 20XX successor), but now I'm thinking that a CPU/Mobo/RAM upgrade might be essential for multiplayer games such as those mentioned. Was thinking of i8700k, decent mid-range Mobo, and 16GB of DDR4 3000mhz (with 1070 Ti being replaced down the line).

Any thoughts on this are much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Personally i think that CPU/Mobo/Ram combination would be a *great* upgrade for those Multiplayer games. I can only really speak for Frostbite games, as I only play (a serious amount of) Battlefield titles and It's the minimum framerate's that REALLY bothered me... and I finally got that issue nailed on the head once and for all. If I had bought that 2080ti and stuck with me quad, i'd more that likely still be getting nasty dips.

When folks ask about upgrading their old Quad core CPU to something more modern, and every says "No stick with what you have", honestly I want to Puke. It may very well be appropriate advice to stick with an old Quad if all you play is single player stuff, but there decent performance boosts to be had if you're a Multiplayer enthusiast.
 
Thanks for the response. As you say, it's those minimum frame rates that are the bother. I can get 100 FPS in BFV at times, but more often it's in that 35-55 FPS range during (or even just near) combat, coupled with the stutters and severe split-second dips. I'm really into BF series and wanting to enjoy BFV, but I just can't be competitive at the moment. There is nothing worse than losing to technology rather than a superior player. If I'm even more honest, I'm not even sure I can tolerate anything below 70 FPS in action games, not sure how I ever did before back in the 60hz days...

Me thinks a Christmas CPU etc. update is due :D
 
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Thanks for the response. As you say, it's those minimum frame rates that are the bother. I can get 100 FPS in BFV at times, but more often it's in that 35-55 FPS range during (or even just near) combat, coupled with the stutters and severe split-second dips. I'm really into BF series and wanting to enjoy BFV, but I just can't be competitive at the moment. There is nothing worse than losing to technology rather than a superior player. If I'm even more honest, I'm not even sure I can tolerate anything below 70 FPS in action games, not sure how I ever did before back in the 60hz days...

Me thinks a Christmas CPU etc. update is due :D
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You would be better off making that a Ryzen 3000 new years upgrade.
 
I’m really thinking of pulling the trigger on the 9900k.

I’ve not had a pc since the first Titan x

But all this rumblings of the new Ryzen are making me think should I wait?

Have my case and psu, so wait and see what happens on the 8th or get the mobo bundle (9900k) from OcUK now ?
 
With any recent 4c/8t Intel CPU I wouldn't bother, not at that resolution in particular. The jump from a 4 core i5 can be gigantic though, especially at high hertz, I saw massive improvements in average FPS in some games like BF1 and big increases in minimums elsewhere going from a 4.7Ghz 4690K to my current 8700K.
 
X-Mikuru_Beam-X said:
Personally i think that CPU/Mobo/Ram combination would be a *great* upgrade for those Multiplayer games. I can only really speak for Frostbite games, as I only play (a serious amount of) Battlefield titles and It's the minimum framerate's that REALLY bothered me... and I finally got that issue nailed on the head once and for all. If I had bought that 2080ti and stuck with me quad, i'd more that likely still be getting nasty dips.

When folks ask about upgrading their old Quad core CPU to something more modern, and every says "No stick with what you have", honestly I want to Puke. It may very well be appropriate advice to stick with an old Quad if all you play is single player stuff, but there decent performance boosts to be had if you're a Multiplayer enthusiast.
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Over the weekend I installed my new CPU/MoBo/RAM upgrade (with existing 1070 Ti). Went for a i7 9700k and Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra, with 16gb DDR 3000mhz ram.

On the old system it was 35-55 FPS during combat with regular stutters to 15 FPS. On the new system it's a minimum 85 FPS during the heaviest combat, and most times it's 100+ FPS. Never stutters and also was able to increase quality settings. In real terms, it's a minimum 100% performance increase and probably 150% on average. It also removed PBUG stutters added 20-30 FPS on Rocket League.

Those are specific games with specific CPU demands granted, but it's an important reminder that those statements like "the i5 2500k is still enough" are pretty dangerous when you think about it. It makes me cringe to think that someone like me might have been convinced to skip a CPU upgrade and get a 1080 Ti etc. instead.
 
SirPsychoZe0 said:
Over the weekend I installed my new CPU/MoBo/RAM upgrade (with existing 1070 Ti). Went for a i7 9700k and Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra, with 16gb DDR 3000mhz ram.

On the old system it was 35-55 FPS during combat with regular stutters to 15 FPS. On the new system it's a minimum 85 FPS during the heaviest combat, and most times it's 100+ FPS. Never stutters and also was able to increase quality settings. In real terms, it's a minimum 100% performance increase and probably 150% on average. It also removed PBUG stutters added 20-30 FPS on Rocket League.

Those are specific games with specific CPU demands granted, but it's an important reminder that those statements like "the i5 2500k is still enough" are pretty dangerous when you think about it. It makes me cringe to think that someone like me might have been convinced to skip a CPU upgrade and get a 1080 Ti etc. instead.
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Yup. There are a lot of misinformed people that parrot the same thing without fact checking or providing evidence.

I'm glad the upgrade is working out for you.

Now you can get that 1080 ti :D:D:D:p;)
 
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Yup. There are a lot of misinformed people that parrot the same thing without fact checking or providing evidence.

I'm glad the upgrade is working out for you.

Now you can get that 1080 ti :D:D:D:p;)
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Funny thing is I first upgraded from GTX 970 SLI to the 1070 Ti because I thought anything more would be a waste on my ol' 2500k. Then I realised that I just couldn't played multiplayer anymore without the new CPU. With hindsight I obviously would have went for something better like the 1080 Ti, but the 1070 Ti is more than enough at the moment. It is however nice knowing that I can now use the power of those bigger cards down the road - the 1080 Ti gets circa 40-50% more FPS whilst the 2080 Ti (If I win the lottery) gets circa 90% more FPS.
 
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