7970 vs 680 thread.

BobbyUK · 23 Mar 2012 at 23:05

Can someone pass me some popcorn, it's getting interesting now!

ALXAndy · 23 Mar 2012 at 23:05

bhavv said:
Sorry but numerous links and cases prove that the 680 is the faster card. Only one that you posted suggests that is isn't, yet this is also the worst written and least professional review out of them all.

You said yourself that Tom doesn't lie, therefore the 680 must be the fastest card

You are still here arguing on the last two pages.

And I'm sorry I'm in no mood to waste my time digging up the other links and posts.

You are posting merely on your own ignorance, and that is why you are digging a hole for yourself. Quite simply every one who has read the thread properly and paid attention knows what has gone down. You don't, but you are posting any way.

It doesn't take a genius to see it.

bhavv said:
@andy

Sorry but numerous links and cases prove that the 680 is the faster card. Only one that you posted suggests that is isn't, yet this is also the worst written and least professional review out of them all.

You said yourself that Tom doesn't lie, therefore the 680 must be the fastest card

That last line of yours is probably more desperate that Katie Price is for attention.

You quite clearly haven't even read the review, yet here you are pointing out things you think you saw and read in it.

The best part of the review, of course, is that Tom clearly states that it is a very good time to be a geek. It is. But, it's not a good time to be ignorant. That will be expensive.

Also, the fact you are trying to slur the review is quite hilarious. Tom has been reviewing hardware for years. He's one of the few who had the MARS II, and not only did he have one he had two. He also had the ARES, where he tried to point out that Crossfire did not work with two cards. People didn't listen.

His equipment is there for all to see. He has professional software costing thousands of pounds, and video making equipment to match.

So say all you like, I don't care. The fact is that both cards were put into his test rig and benched in the same way.

Also, please lay off the childish attempts to say things like - Tom said the 680 is the fastest ! because you are now clearly, clearly lying.

And lying will get you into trouble.

Krono5 · 23 Mar 2012 at 23:06

Oh and also the 7970 works better at higher res than 1920*1080 especially multiple monitor setups so it's more even at stock and has a slgiht boost when both are OC'd.

bhavv · 23 Mar 2012 at 23:07

Everyone who has paid attention and is capable of reading knows that the GTX680 is the fastest card ever!

RavenXXX2 · 23 Mar 2012 at 23:08

Krono5 said:
Oh and also the 7970 works better at higher res than 1920*1080 especially multiple monitor setups so it's more even at stock and has a slgiht boost when both are OC'd.

HardOCP disagree with you.

While gaming at 2560x1600 was fantastic, we wanted to push the video card to its limits, and so next we configured an NV Surround triple-display configuration and gamed on three displays from the single GeForce GTX 680. We wanted to be able to run at the native resolution of 5760x1200 and compare the performance to the Radeon HD 7970. We figured if any resolution is going to show the advantages of AMD's memory capacity and memory bandwidth edge it would be 5760x1200. We were absolutely surprised that the GeForce GTX 680 had no trouble keeping pace with the Radeon HD 7970 at 5760x1200. We thought this is the resolution we might see the GTX 680 bottleneck, but to our surprise no bottlenecks were experienced.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/03/22/nvidia_kepler_gpu_geforce_gtx_680_video_card_review/14

Boomstick777 · 23 Mar 2012 at 23:09

The HD 7970 and GTX 680 performance is so similar there is nothing in it really, the only real choice between the cards is which brand you prefer. Each card has perks over the other, i.e physx and less power, or 3GB of ram better dual card and better performance overclocked, but nothing to render one card overall better per say.

I almost switched from 7970 to GTX 680, but mainly for Physx in Batman and Metro etc and slight better BF3 performance, when I really looked into reviews performance wise there's nothing in it, I can live without physx for a bit longer..

Both the 7970 and GTX 680 are good cards, maybe both could do with a price drop though

I think GK110 will be a massive boost and a worthwhile upgrade!

Great video review of 680 here, TTl compares 680 to 7970..

bhavv · 23 Mar 2012 at 23:10

AMD fans owned yet again! +1 for the green team!

Gregster · 23 Mar 2012 at 23:10

ALXAndy said:
You are still here arguing on the last two pages.

And I'm sorry I'm in no mood to waste my time digging up the other links and posts.

You are posting merely on your own ignorance, and that is why you are digging a hole for yourself. Quite simply every one who has read the thread properly and paid attention knows what has gone down. You don't, but you are posting any way.

It doesn't take a genius to see it.

So anybody who disagrees with you andy is digging a hole? I implore you to see sense and realise that the 7970 is a great card however the 680 beats it.

MOOGLEYS · 23 Mar 2012 at 23:11

liamcrane said:
Thanks again mate for your help, one last thing tho i have never actually come across the "club" brand are they any good? Its just that 6950 seems very cheap compared to all the others

No idea mate have seen a few club cards but never owned one. I would imagine they are fine the cooler looks decent and they have a 2 year warranty.

Edit - Found a review of the club 6950, Looks quite good tbh...

Club 6950 review

ALXAndy · 23 Mar 2012 at 23:12

bhavv said:
Everyone who has paid attention and is capable of reading knows that the GTX680 is the fastest card ever!

Carry on.

Krono5 said:
Stock 680 as it OC's itself, OC'd even depending on the games although I'd give a slight advantage to 7970 when OC'd properly. If you favour Vram or some of the 680 features would be the only difference. The people who think power draw is as important as some have made out in this thread have issues.

Right now (at least for the next week or two) people are going to say whatever they can to rubbish the 7970. It's just natural human nature.

ALXAndy · 23 Mar 2012 at 23:12

gregster said:
So anybody who disagrees with you andy is digging a hole? I implore you to see sense and realise that the 7970 is a great card however the 680 beats it.

No, you are digging a hole because you keep trying to convince the world that the 680 is faster.

It isn't.

Never mind. Give it time and you will learn to accept it.

arc@css · 23 Mar 2012 at 23:13

I think TTL's review was the only one I've read / seen that put them on par with each other. Love his videos though, the banter between him and Mr.Strawberry makes me laugh loads.

PGdude · 23 Mar 2012 at 23:14

bhavv said:
AMD fans owned yet again! +1 for the green team!

I don't get it. :confused:

james.miller · 23 Mar 2012 at 23:14

ALXAndy said:
Oh of course. I was merely demonstrating that it had been around since 2008 in DirectX, yet wasn't used as any kind of demonstration or selling point

It's been around since 2001 in both direct x (8, to be precise) and openGL. Back then it was called n-patch and the differing approaches from ati and nvidia, and the lack of gpu power to support, were ultimately what stopped it becoming a must-have feature back then.

ALXAndy · 23 Mar 2012 at 23:15

arc@css said:
I think TTL's review was the only one I've read / seen that put them on par with each other. Love his videos though, the banter between him and Mr.Strawberry makes me laugh loads.

http://vr-zone.com/articles/asus-gtx-680-2gb-overclocking-review-win-some-lose-some/15322-6.html

It's becoming more official by the day.

We're pretty sure that most (sanctioned) reviews that you'll read on the Internet today will unashamely proclaim that the GTX 680 is the best single card around, but the truth is most users who buy these cards are going to overclock their cards to the limit and then both Nvidia and AMD flagships are going to trade wins at the top. The lackluster compute performance and inferior memory bandwidth will hurt the GTX 680 in multi-screen, maxed out image quality, high end gaming. We also estimate that the BOM (Bill of Materials) cost on the HD 7970 is higher, given the higher end VRMs/more phases and larger cooling system.

To be fair, we'll have to give it to Nvidia that the GTX 680 is still a very fast card and has significantly better energy efficiencies and clock potential than the Taihiti XT @ 28nm. It is also refreshing that AMD finally has some competition at the top, so we can stop paying ridiculous prices for single GPU boards. We also didn't cover the other features like TXAA and triple display support, but these are gimmicks that are also present in the Radeons. We would like to pit the GTX 680 again with the HD 7970 in multi-GPU scenarios, hopefully 4-way.

With an MSRP at US$499, the GTX 680 sits between the HD 7950 and the HD 7970. If you are just purely using it for gaming purposes, you can buy this card.

Look harder. I will save the other two for later.

That's a respost from about 1pm today.

james.miller said:
It's been around since 2001 in both direct x (8, to be precise) and openGL. Back then it was called n-patch and the differing approaches from ati and nvidia, and the lack of gpu power to support, were ultimately what stopped it becoming a must-have feature.

That I did not know ! Still, you learn something new every day

bhavv · 23 Mar 2012 at 23:15

ALXAndy said:
Also, please lay off the childish attempts to say things like - Tom said the 680 is the fastest ! because you are now clearly, clearly lying.

And lying will get you into trouble.

Of course he did, I even quouted it. The review is even named after the GTX680 being the new champion, and the entire conclusion clearly states that the GTX680 rofflestomps the 7970.

Green team +1, red team -1.

MyBrainz · 23 Mar 2012 at 23:15

PGdude said:
I don't get it.

I do.. its called trolling.

ALXAndy · 23 Mar 2012 at 23:17

bhavv said:
Of course he did, I even quouted it. The review is even named after the GTX680 being the new champion, and the entire conclusion clearly states that the GTX680 rofflestomps the 7970.

Green team +1, red team -1.

http://vr-zone.com/articles/asus-gtx-680-2gb-overclocking-review-win-some-lose-some/15322-6.html

It's becoming more official by the day.

We're pretty sure that most (sanctioned) reviews that you'll read on the Internet today will unashamely proclaim that the GTX 680 is the best single card around, but the truth is most users who buy these cards are going to overclock their cards to the limit and then both Nvidia and AMD flagships are going to trade wins at the top. The lackluster compute performance and inferior memory bandwidth will hurt the GTX 680 in multi-screen, maxed out image quality, high end gaming. We also estimate that the BOM (Bill of Materials) cost on the HD 7970 is higher, given the higher end VRMs/more phases and larger cooling system.

To be fair, we'll have to give it to Nvidia that the GTX 680 is still a very fast card and has significantly better energy efficiencies and clock potential than the Taihiti XT @ 28nm. It is also refreshing that AMD finally has some competition at the top, so we can stop paying ridiculous prices for single GPU boards. We also didn't cover the other features like TXAA and triple display support, but these are gimmicks that are also present in the Radeons. We would like to pit the GTX 680 again with the HD 7970 in multi-GPU scenarios, hopefully 4-way.

With an MSRP at US$499, the GTX 680 sits between the HD 7950 and the HD 7970. If you are just purely using it for gaming purposes, you can buy this card.

MyBrainz · 23 Mar 2012 at 23:17

bhavv said:
and the entire conclusion clearly states that the GTX680 rofflestomps the 7970.

Green team +1, red team -1.

And heres another troll

Gregster · 23 Mar 2012 at 23:17

I feel the masses who have rushed to but the 680 have learnt to accept it. I wont quote figures as I have no idea but surely you can admit that the 680 is selling faster than the 7970 did on release?

This seems to tell me that the buyers know what is what.