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7970 vs 680 thread.

U just have to look at what u need it for and then make ur own decision,this is what i have done in the past. I play Second Life so u wud have thought i'd go for Nvidia as they are meant to have a better OpenGL implimentation but as it goes my 6870 runs SL really well but i make Machinima in SL so im needing a better card soon :)
 
ALXAndy said:
How did I confuse him?

I posted bloody benchmarks from his site. Some one said they were false, I said Tom never lies.

If any one is confused it isn't me !

Maybe some people need to lay off the drink.
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"If you're only here for pure gaming performance and number crunching then the GTX680 certainly has performance in spades. It's nearly identical to the HD7970 in the numbers we saw throughout our testing and only in a couple of instances was the HD7970 ahead" -- http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/nvidia_gtx680_review/19

Now Tom never lies, and here he is indicating that in most cases, the 680 is indeed the faster card.

Any talk of how the 680 overclocks is just plain silly until people have had a few weeks to play with them.
 
The vr-zone article is also iffy Andy, they claimed the GTX680 would suffer in multi-screen without even testing it, but we all know that it actually doesn't, even when going up to 5760x1200.

Tom's video i'm not sure what to make of, he is claiming they are neck and neck when it comes to games but his results don't show that, and even that it's not that much faster than a 580 which is nonsense.

As for the games, why are so many tested at 8xAA when the game doesn't support 8xAA.
Why is Dirt 3 slower on the 680 than the 560, why the old version of Unigine.
In Batman AC why is PhysX enabled on the 680, but not the 7970 and then be stupid enough to say it was strange that didn't give the 680 and advantage he was expecting, and speaking of PhysX to claim that the 3D Mark 11 score was higher because of PhysX when it doesn't use it is nothing short of idiotic.

It did look like he was using an older driver, so i will let him off for some of the results that differ from most other places, but the mistakes he made just aren't on, especially when your supposed potentially selling an expensive piece of hardware to someone.
 
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Woden said:
"If you're only here for pure gaming performance and number crunching then the GTX680 certainly has performance in spades. It's nearly identical to the HD7970 in the numbers we saw throughout our testing and only in a couple of instances was the HD7970 ahead" -- http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/nvidia_gtx680_review/19

Now Tom never lies, and here he is indicating that in most cases, the 680 is indeed the faster card.

Any talk of how the 680 overclocks is just plain silly until people have had a few weeks to play with them.
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Now look at the benchmarks. I really CBA posting them all again.

And they were both substantially overclocked. The 680 was running @ 1250mhz. In the VR Zone article they could only get theirs stable at 1200.

Twist things all you like.
 
Redemption80 said:
The vr-zone article is also iffy Andy, they claimed the GTX680 would suffer in multi-screen without even testing it, but we all know that it actually doesn't, even when going up to 5760x1200.

Tom's video i'm not sure what to make of, he is claiming they are neck and neck when it comes to games but his results don't show that, and even that it's not that much faster than a 580 which is nonsense.

As for the games, why are so many tested at 8xAA when the game doesn't support 8xAA.
Why is Dirt 3 slower on the 680 than the 560, why the old version of Unigine.
Why is PhysX enabled on the 680, but not the 7970 and then be stupid enough to say it was strange that didn't give the 680 and advantage he was expecting, and speaking of PhysX to claim that the 3D Mark 11 score was higher because of PhysX when it doesn't use it is nothing short of idiotic.

It did look like he was using an older driver, so i will let him off for some of the results that differ from most other places, but the mistakes he made just aren't on, especially when your supposed potentially selling an expensive piece of hardware to someone.
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So Linus is wrong too?

I strongly suggest you go back to the beginning and read very carefully.
 
GTX680 certainly has performance in spades. It's nearly identical to the HD7970 in the numbers we saw throughout our testing and only in a couple of instances was the HD7970 ahead
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In terms of actual frame-rates it's nearly identical to the HD7970 and for the first time in a long while you truly can throw your hat in with whichever company you prefer and know that you aren't compromising anything.
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Some benchies below for those claiming the GTX 680 is faster, these two cards trade blows... Win some, lose some. Look how close BF3 is..

There is no clear winner, only fanboys who think there is :rolleyes:

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http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/nvidia_gtx680_review/19
 
One website on the whole internet shows that the GTX680 isn't faster, while 99% of the rest show that it is. I wonder then which one is the lie.

I could quote graphs from everywhere else showing that the GTX680 is faster, but its annoying having to go through post after post with hundreds of embedded graphs.
 
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Doubt either 680 or 7970 owners are disappointed with their purchase apart from maybe high costs.

The way the 680 is overclocked seems a bit awkward though or have I read it incorrectly?
I have a 7950 which is just easy to OC so that's what I'm comparing to (the OC method I mean).

If I had to choose between the two atm the cost would perhaps swing the decision in the favour of green, but I still like how easy it is to OC the current AMD cards though :confused:
 
ALXAndy said:
Now look at the benchmarks. I really CBA posting them all again.

And they were both substantially overclocked. The 680 was running @ 1250mhz. In the VR Zone article they could only get theirs stable at 1200.

Twist things all you like.
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So was Tom lying when he said the 7970 only beats the 680 in a couple of places?

Every review I have seen puts the 7970 and the 680 performance practically neck and neck. With the 680 being slightly cheaper, cooler, quieter and less power hungry. The 680 is undoubtedly the better card, if only by a tiny margin.

I was waiting on the 680 before making a choice, I don't really care about 2fps better in one game or another, the 680 is cooler and quieter, I'm sold. Or will be come next payday unless AMD do something drastic.
 
Woden said:
So was Tom lying when he said the 7970 only beats the 680 in a couple of places?

Every review I have seen puts the 7970 and the 680 performance practically neck and neck. With the 680 being slightly cheaper, cooler, quieter and less power hungry. The 680 is undoubtedly the better card, if only by a tiny margin.

I was waiting on the 680 before making a choice, I don't really care about 2fps better in one game or another, the 680 is cooler and quieter, I'm sold. Or will be come next payday unless AMD do something drastic.
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If you're about to buy a card now? Get a 680.

It may be the better card to you, but technically it isn't. Heat? my 7970 even at 1125 ran cooler than the test sample. That reached over 80c, I've never seen my card over 76, not even in heavy 3D stuff.

As for the power draw? irrelevant. Don't use that one as an argument because you are literally saving pennies over the other card.

Mind you, if I'm completely honest I wouldn't buy either right now. For once in this generation it is an absolute foregone conclusion that a price war is coming. Predictions could be made before Kepler, now they are absolutely cast in stone. One of them has to flinch. If AMD undercut the 680 by £50 they will expose Nvidia, and vice versa.
 
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