Soldato
It shows how biased the review sites are out there, pretty shocking tbh.
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7970 vs 680 thread.
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It shows how biased the review sites are out there, pretty shocking tbh.
Because unfortunately people like dave beast troll round the forum trying to convince others that because his overclocked card outperforms the 680 it must be better and everyone needs to agree.
Seems quite obvious to me that he is annoyed the card he spent a fortune on isn't king anymore and doesn't know how to handle his feelings of inadequacy.
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I'm not going to argue with the man - he's actually done the benching so fair play to him - I'll treat his review as an "undecided" in terms of clear winner. Unfortunately the balance of the reviews on the web seem to be skewed one way or another, the majority of which are declaring the GTX 680 to be the winner by greater or lesser degrees. I can't vouch for the vested interests of each hack however, which is why some real world benches from OcUK members (or staff - come on Gibbo!) would be a welcome addition to the dearth that's currently available.
Soldato
I'm giving my performance figures because the figures given in reviews are blatanly being nerfed to make the 680 look better than it is, and all you naive kiddies lap up the false BS being fed to you. More fool you. Read around any forum about how folks we're going to sell their 7970's and get 680, stopped for a second and realised it's not as good as being reviewed.
Either biased or flat out stupid.
I will go with the latter, as alienating AMD isn't a good idea.
The thing is they gleefully wrote their reviews saying how the 680 was faster before the reviews had even begun for crying out loud. What I mean by that is the titles of the reviews. Tomshardware was -
GeForce GTX 680 2 GB Review: Kepler Sends Tahiti On Vacation
I just wonder if they are going to realise the error of their ways, or just continue to look idiotic and stupid.
As we have already covered, all it really takes now is a driver from AMD. One little tiny piece of software can spin this all around and drop it firmly on its head.
I also wonder why Vortez have not had any cards for review.
Was it because they stood up proudly and compared the 7970 to the 580 properly and put all of the doubters to bed?
This has also solidified the reason why I cancelled my Bit-Tech sub. At the end of the day if they are going to be so stupid and moronic as to clearly state the 680 (which is clearly overclocked AND overclocking itself) a winner then they need help.
What bothers me the most (and it really, truly does) is that people have turned hypocrite overnight. They have allowed a card that overclocks itself to be put, very unfairly, against one that doesn't.
And that goes against the very fibre of enthusiasts. Taking something out of context and unfairly declaring it a winner when that's not the truth or the complete picture is just flat out balls wrong.
Soldato
8.95 was the turning point imo, it's only going to get better from here. Got to feel bad for those who've rushed out to buy the 680, the 2nd fastest GPU rofl
Seeing as everyone is getting excited over meaningless 3dMark scores we might as well have the world record score posted...
http://www.maximum-tech.net/kingpin-now-takes-the-evga-gtx-680-to-1900-mhz-11152/
So how's about those games results?
http://www.maximum-tech.net/kingpin-now-takes-the-evga-gtx-680-to-1900-mhz-11152/
So how's about those games results?
Soldato
ALXAndy are there any true reviews of the 680 OC Vs 7970 OC or stock Vs stock?
Soldato
Wait until the 7970 is benched at 1900mhz lol
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Yea he managed a sick core speed but pretty sure if anyone manages that core clock on a 7970 the record will be smoked again. Its gonna be funny watching all these people with 2 much money wreck loads of cards trying to get 10-20 points more each time.
Soldato
Overclock3D started out by realising that the 680 was overclocking itself.
Thus, beginning any fair review on that basis would be quite frankly impossible.
I mean come on, it's not rocket science is it? Comparing a card that overclocks itself to one that doesn't is quite clearly very unfair.
Overclock3d basically overclocked BOTH cards before they even started. They pushed as hard as they could on both, and once they were stable and at their limits they began the review and benchmarks.
And neither card proved to be a clear winner. It was trading blows all the way.
Then today I found two others. And do you know what makes me laugh?
Whenever you post one people find something wrong with it, trying to nit pick inconsistencies.
For example, on one of them the immediate reaction was -
Oh noes that's not unfair because the 7970 they used hit 1250mhz and nearly all of the 7970s won't !
I find that particularly interesting you see, because that same person is unable to differentiate a card that overclocks itself to one that doesn't.
So, quite frankly this is being met with 100% pure, unadulterated filtered ignorance. The "lalalalalala" technique, when obviously it's a lot more complicated than that.
And that's just it. Many thought that this would be a simple battle. It isn't. When you are comparing the two best cards on the market cheating to declare one a clear winner is wrong.
You know, I wouldn't even mind if overclocking did not carry the importance and significance it does. Entire websites were founded on it, yet all of a sudden because a new GPU comes out none of it matters
In all seriousness, are none of you actually interested in how these cards perform while gaming? Or do you make your buying decisions on the basis of a couple of artificial benchmarks that bear no relation to real word games?
Yea.. Great... The 7970 and 680 seem to perform pretty much exactly the same in Heaven and 3dmark, the thing is though, I don't play Heaven or 3dmark. If I wanted to watch the same rendered images pass across my screen all day I'd fire up my library of Pixar films, at least I'd be entertained that way.
I'd almost be tempted to think a couple of very vocal 7970 owners are worried to post games benchmarks for some reason.
Yea.. Great... The 7970 and 680 seem to perform pretty much exactly the same in Heaven and 3dmark, the thing is though, I don't play Heaven or 3dmark. If I wanted to watch the same rendered images pass across my screen all day I'd fire up my library of Pixar films, at least I'd be entertained that way.
I'd almost be tempted to think a couple of very vocal 7970 owners are worried to post games benchmarks for some reason.
Soldato
You think you would get unbiased game benchmarks in here, look at the GPU smack talk going down, it's like they are defending a loved one or something.
You think you would get unbiased game benchmarks in here, look at GPU smack talk going down, it's like they are defending a loved one or something.
Do you know what I am defending? the entire existence and reason for the term "enthusiast".
People are buying these cards with their eyes and ears shut. They are refusing to listen.
Which I find rather hilarious. Amazing how you can completely change your ideals overnight !
There has never, ever been a moment in computing history where people unfairly compared a product to another one and then lied and said it was the winner.
PC enthusiasts are not that stupid. Firstly they know how to operate a computer properly and secondly they know how to overclock hardware. Never before have they negated to overclock one and then compared the two.
It's biased, and it goes against the very logic of the PC enthusiast.
it's a battle between AMD and Nvidia fanboys that's all, while the rest of us observe their rantings from range
It's bloody annoying is what it is. I WANT to see a decent selection of results, from different people, with real world rigs and weird and wonderful setups. Instead what we get is borderline trolling and 3dmark/heaven results.
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I dont see any gtx680 owners coming in with there benchmarks from games or canned.
Caporegime
Soldato
I'm just glad that 95% of forum users here are presumably of decent intelligence and won't listen to Davebeast... At least Andy is normally coherent when debating.