Who cares about games. It's all about the dram calculator benchmark.
8 PACK MEMORY RANGE GROWING: SAY HELLO TO 8 PACK RIPPED EDITION & 32GB KITS!!!
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Lol
Find BFV is a very good stability tester.
Found the issue anyway. Dice have some silly graphics auto presets which automatically turn on vsysnc.
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I've ordered the 3600 CL14 kit and it's arrived an in my PC. I've activated DOCP and my PC failed to boot from cold until I pressed the reset button. I've read this whole thread and I'm not sure how to set up my PC for this kit. I may need to try clear CMOS next to clear settings from my previous memory kit and then try again. I was certainly hoping I could activate DOCP/XMP and get a stable system but it seems I have to do more work than that. Is there a page with some official recommended settings for the ripped edition kits?
I've used the Ryzen DRAM calculator and normally you would use the most up to date version of an app but in here there is talk of using 1.7.0. I know the app has changed and the author now doesn't recommend using Thaiphoon to get the timings but surely the newest version is best. Certainly using the new method of inputting the details and pressing calculate only gets you a set of timings starting with CL16 when we know the kit can do CL14 whereas importing from Thaiphoon and calculating does give a set with the right timings for this actual kit.
I've used the Ryzen DRAM calculator and normally you would use the most up to date version of an app but in here there is talk of using 1.7.0. I know the app has changed and the author now doesn't recommend using Thaiphoon to get the timings but surely the newest version is best. Certainly using the new method of inputting the details and pressing calculate only gets you a set of timings starting with CL16 when we know the kit can do CL14 whereas importing from Thaiphoon and calculating does give a set with the right timings for this actual kit.
which cpu do you have?, my cl14 ripped kits were plug and play on my 3900x, set docp and away my pc went, no boot problems at all.
defiantly look at a cmos reset and enable docp again, it should apply the correct timings and voltages for the ram
It's a 3600. Yeah I'm going to clear CMOS and try again in the morning. Firing up the BBQ now!
as long as its a 3rd gen ryzen you should be good, most if not all 3rd gen can hit ddr4 3600mhz out of the box, if not you may have to play around with voltages but for now clear the cmos and see if everything fires up ok
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Yes use the timings from 1.7.0 for now s 1.7.3 seems to give slower timings.
It probably failed to boot if you had manual memory settings in the bios.
Where did you see this "I know the app has changed and the author now doesn't recommend using Thaiphoon to get the timings"?
Its probably been changed for extra stability.
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The difference for me between the timings in 1.7.3 compared to 1.7.0 was a default membench score of 250 down to 221. So the change is quite significant. Same voltage and seems just as stable. No crash etc...
Which timings actually changed?
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Base timings are:
1.7.3:
14 15 15 15 30
1.7.0:
14 14 15 14 28
tfaw is also less
1.7.3 is no good in my opinion. It spits out slow timings.
Here they are side by side:
1.7.3 timings and score:
1.7.0 timings and score:
You know that the calculator is just spitting out numbers that a majority of people can achieve, with that majority being smaller for 'fast'. He changes the output based on reports from users and his own testing.
It's a guidance tool, not a guarantee, why people use this rubbish is beyond me. I gave up when I realised it was basically doing nothing for me. Test tab is good though.
Read about memory tuning and do it yourself. You have to, tool or not. Otherwise your just basically plugging numbers in off the Internet....
Asus Prime X470-pro and latest BIOS.
I've cleared the CMOS and just set the time and some basic BIOS settings and I'm into windows. I'll turn it off after I've read these replies and checked my email etc and see how it boots from cold.
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That is from here: https://wccftech.com/dram-calculator-for-ryzen-1-7-1-download/
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So you can still import XMP and then select manual and calculate fast and that gets timings more appropriate for these special ripped edition kits.
Also has anyone found out if the PCB layout for these ripped edition kits is A0, A1 or A2?
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With Ryzen DRAM Calculator 1.7.3, I've imported XMP and calculate fast gives some settings that look like they will be fast if they are stable. I haven't tried them yet as I'm just checking for boot stability after clearing CMOS and running default 2400.
I can understand needing to learn all these settings if you want to overclock to the bleeding edge but I just want to run my RAM at it's rated speed.
There should really be some official settings that are published. Is there something from 8 pack himself on how to set up these kits? Overclockers must have tested these themselves so it would be good to see their numbers. These may be published somewhere but I just don't know about it.
The official settings is the XMP.
Then set xmp and that's it.
This calculator is basically a crowd sourced average for lesser known timings outside of xmp scope. I like the idea, but if you likely still need to tweak, and therefore learn, what's the point of the calculator?
This!