8 PACK MEMORY RANGE GROWING: SAY HELLO TO 8 PACK RIPPED EDITION & 32GB KITS!!!

Guest2 · 13 Jul 2021 at 19:29

Cadder said:
Is that the "MY-002-8P" kit on OCUK? I think I have the same kit - "Team Group 8Pack Edition 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C16 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit"

I've never done any in-depth tweaking of component settings - I am limited to switching the XMP profile on and letting the Ryzen software "Auto-OC".

I came here to find out if and how I can get the most out of my memory kit. Safely of course.

Yep, that’s the stuff.
Why are you limited to only switching the xmp profile on?

Cadder · 13 Jul 2021 at 19:52

Guest2 said:
Yep, that’s the stuff.
Why are you limited to only switching the xmp profile on?

I have no experience of doing anything more than that

Guest2 · 13 Jul 2021 at 20:01

Cadder said:
I have no experience of doing anything more than that

Are, i though you meant physically by board or something.
Have a look through this thread, lots of into on setting manual timings in bios

Good starting point

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/forums/posts/34418673/

GregI · 29 Jul 2021 at 20:44

The 32GB 3200C14 kit can now be had for £199.99 and the 3600C16 kit is £229.99.

Good to see these prices back to pre covid.

ProStreet · 29 Jul 2021 at 22:58

Is this dual rank ram?

shamus21 · 30 Jul 2021 at 05:18

What i would like to no is when are we going to see 8 Pack DDR 5.

Stu · 30 Jul 2021 at 13:11

GregI said:
The 32GB 3200C14 kit can now be had for £199.99 and the 3600C16 kit is £229.99.

Good to see these prices back to pre covid.

smeemi said:
Is this dual rank ram?

Yes

stephenb · 30 Jul 2021 at 13:31

Just picked up a set of the 32GB CL16 RAM. Couldn't justify it when it was double the price of the Ballistix I got (£300 vs £150) but on offer today at £200

stephenb · 4 Aug 2021 at 20:05

Typical, just got the new memory above installed and system won't POST with memory set to XMP profile. I did clear CMOS before installing. Tried manually setting DRAM to 1.35v, tried SoC at 1.15v without success. Tried dropping speed down to 3400, still no POST. At 3200 it booted first time and on a quick test in Windows seems stable.

Am I missing something obvious or does my 5950x just have a duffer of a memory controller?

Ryzen Master shows following voltages:
MEM VDDIO 1.35
MEM VTT 0.675
VDDCR SOC 1
XLDO VDDP 0.9002
CLDO VDDG CCD 0.9002
CLDO VDDG IOD 0.9002

Current timings 3200-16-16-16-16-38

Electronic Dave · 5 Aug 2021 at 08:04

stephenb said:
Typical, just got the new memory above installed and system won't POST with memory set to XMP profile. I did clear CMOS before installing. Tried manually setting DRAM to 1.35v, tried SoC at 1.15v without success. Tried dropping speed down to 3400, still no POST. At 3200 it booted first time and on a quick test in Windows seems stable.

Am I missing something obvious or does my 5950x just have a duffer of a memory controller?

Ryzen Master shows following voltages:
MEM VDDIO 1.35
MEM VTT 0.675
VDDCR SOC 1
XLDO VDDP 0.9002
CLDO VDDG CCD 0.9002
CLDO VDDG IOD 0.9002

Current timings 3200-16-16-16-16-38

I assume just two DIMMS and manually setting the timings (not using the DOCP thing) edit: oh your a Gigabyte board

Have you tried the setting the XMP profiles manually with everything on auto to start, with the DRAM voltage only at 1.35V. Then try booting at different memory speeds. Does it boot at 3400 with 1.35v on auto?

If successful then try manually adjusting the memory timings. I never touched any voltages in my settings - all set to auto except 1.35v RAM.

I have a slightly older pair of 2x 8GB of that memory at 3600 on 1.35v with manual XMP timings paired with a 5800x.

Maybe the 5950x is more fragile with the mem controller?

Joxeon · 5 Aug 2021 at 08:28

stephenb said:
Typical, just got the new memory above installed and system won't POST with memory set to XMP profile. I did clear CMOS before installing. Tried manually setting DRAM to 1.35v, tried SoC at 1.15v without success. Tried dropping speed down to 3400, still no POST. At 3200 it booted first time and on a quick test in Windows seems stable.

Am I missing something obvious or does my 5950x just have a duffer of a memory controller?

Ryzen Master shows following voltages:
MEM VDDIO 1.35
MEM VTT 0.675
VDDCR SOC 1
XLDO VDDP 0.9002
CLDO VDDG CCD 0.9002
CLDO VDDG IOD 0.9002

Current timings 3200-16-16-16-16-38

What speed was the ballistix running?

stephenb · 5 Aug 2021 at 11:08

@Electronic Dave - two sticks. Manually entering timings is a good shout. I wonder if something may have stuck from the previous kit that was in there.

@Joxeon - the Ballistix kit was rated at 3200cl16 but I had it running at 3333 14-17-16-16-58.

Joxeon · 5 Aug 2021 at 11:14

Try upping the SoC to 1.1 and playing about with the VDDG IOD adjusting up or down.

Also might be worth making sure your on the latest bios as infinity fabric speeds were a bit sketchy on some of the early bios.

stephenb · 5 Aug 2021 at 21:57

Tried again this evening. Kit just refuses to boot at anything past 3200 so I settled on 3200 cl14 fast timings from the Ryzen DRAM calculator. Shaved a good 5ns off the latency as measured by Aida64 compared to my old kit

May be able to further tighten secondary and tertiary timings but right now I'm just going to check for stability and call it a day.

Stu · 10 Aug 2021 at 13:45

stephenb said:
Tried again this evening. Kit just refuses to boot at anything past 3200 so I settled on 3200 cl14 fast timings from the Ryzen DRAM calculator. Shaved a good 5ns off the latency as measured by Aida64 compared to my old kit May be able to further tighten secondary and tertiary timings but right now I'm just going to check for stability and call it a day.

Just to be clear, you have a new kit of Team Group 8Pack Edition 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C16 3600MHz and it won't run above 3200Mhz with a 5950x on an Auros X570 mobo?!?!?!? Something is not right there!

stephenb · 11 Aug 2021 at 13:43

Yes, that is correct @Stu

Stu · 11 Aug 2021 at 18:09

stephenb said:
Yes, that is correct @Stu

I would contact OCUK for advice (and maybe leverage the lifetime warranty on these sticks).

stephenb · 14 Aug 2021 at 19:58

Tried following this guide: MemTestHelper/DDR4 OC Guide.md at oc-guide · integralfx/MemTestHelper · GitHub
Failed at the first hurdle as even with setting voltages manually and loosening timings it still wouldn't post at anything above 3200mhz.

Instead I worked on tightening timings a little further and now have the following which thus far has been stable. Aida64 consistently measuring latency at 60.5ns

3200cl14.jpg (387×567) (zen.co.uk)

Blackjack Davy · 15 Aug 2021 at 21:46

Stu said:
Just to be clear, you have a new kit of Team Group 8Pack Edition 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C16 3600MHz and it won't run above 3200Mhz with a 5950x on an Auros X570 mobo?!?!?!? Something is not right there!

I had (have) the 16gb version of this samsung b-die kit I think it is, mine simply wouldn't post past 3500 on my old 3900x but the new 5900x will do 3800mhz on this 3600mhz kit easily.

Its the IMC on the cpu? Something like that as the kit is capable of 4000mhz according to 8pack.

stephenb said:
Typical, just got the new memory above installed and system won't POST with memory set to XMP profile.

Same here, it just woudn't have it with the old chip.

frustin · 16 Aug 2021 at 09:41

I currently have Team Group 8Pack RIPPED Edition 16GB DDR4 PC4-28800C14 3600MHZ.

I've got a VR set up now and i think the 16GB is hitting the ceiling. Should i just buy another two sticks of the same or perhaps consider alternatives?