84 Confirmed dead after another apparent terrorism attack in Nice, France,

V F · 14 Jul 2016 at 23:44

Supercow said:
Everyone's thinking it though, might as well address the elephant in the room.

Efour said:
It was 1 minute after the reports i was just looking for more news and that was autoplaying. Its ok im a grown up i can handle the sad reality. If you cant dont look!

Oh, the rubber necks...

chrcoluk · 14 Jul 2016 at 23:45

RIP to the unfortunate.

Shocking events.

delta0 · 14 Jul 2016 at 23:45

Roar87 said:
France needs to invoke article 5, how long do we pussy foot around because of public opinion

Article 50?

It will be interesting to see if free movement is found to be a significant enabler as it was to carry out the Paris attacks.

Mr Badger · 14 Jul 2016 at 23:45

RaohNS said:
Its those trucks again! First clogging up the motorway and blocking up the sliproads! One truck in France must have just had enough and thought to independently without anybody behind the wheel decide it had enough of drivers going faster than them so picked on the easy target of a pedestrian.

Its probably the dumbest post we will read in this thread... Blaming trucks.

Trucks don't kill people...

Roar87 · 14 Jul 2016 at 23:47

delta0 said:
Article 50? It will be interesting to see if free movement is found to be a significant enabler as it was to carry out the Paris attacks.

Article 5 of NATO. America triggered it after 9/11. France has suffered numerous attacks. It isn't getting any better

Amnesia · 14 Jul 2016 at 23:47

Why France again ?

Danthus · 14 Jul 2016 at 23:49

Moses said:
It wasn't.

You can't know wither way yet.

Glaucus · 14 Jul 2016 at 23:49

Unlike us they are very liberal, very anti spying, freedom etc.
Which IMO is a very good thing, it does leave them more open to attack though.

Rip, horrific incident

delta0 · 14 Jul 2016 at 23:49

Roar87 said:
Article 5 of NATO. America triggered it after 9/11. France has suffered numerous attacks. It isn't getting any better

It won't get better. France are a strong country against terrorism as is the UK. Unfortunately France is easier to access and has been an easier terrorist attack as a result.

Moses said:
It wasn't.

Yes it was. Many of the terrorists crossed borders without checks. A border control would have 100% stopped that attack.

phil675 · 14 Jul 2016 at 23:49

Amnesia said:
Why France again ?

9.6% Religion of Peace population.

TheStarkFactor · 14 Jul 2016 at 23:51

Forgive any ignorance, however, why does France appear to be feeling the brunt of these terrorists attacks over the past couple of years?

A quick Google shows 13 incidents since 2014, with the UK listed as four, all on a smaller scale.

Mynight · 14 Jul 2016 at 23:51

Moses said:
Pretty much can.

Maybe I'm missing it but how can you know that? :confused:

We don't even know who did it yet do we?

Caged · 14 Jul 2016 at 23:51

TheStarkFactor said:
Forgive any ignorance, however, why does France appear to be feeling the brunt of these terrorists attacks over the past couple of years?

A quick Google shows 13 incidents since 2014, with the UK listed as four, all on a smaller scale.

I think there's a general feeling that France's security services aren't brilliant.

I see this thread's taken a predictable turn.

Schlong&Stable · 14 Jul 2016 at 23:52

TheStarkFactor said:
Forgive any ignorance, however, why does France appear to be feeling the brunt of these terrorists attacks over the past couple of years?

A quick Google shows 13 incidents since 2014, with the UK listed as four, all on a smaller scale.

Large Muslim population that has essentially been left to its own devices.

Roar87 · 14 Jul 2016 at 23:52

TheStarkFactor said:
Forgive any ignorance, however, why does France appear to be feeling the brunt of these terrorists attacks over the past couple of years?

A quick Google shows 13 incidents since 2014, with the UK listed as four, all on a smaller scale.

A lot of the attacks have been committed with high powered assault rifles like AKs, you'd struggle to get those into the UK without being flagged up pretty quickly. In France they have large borders with much easier access. Nothing stopping someone doing this in the UK with a lorry though.

robfosters · 14 Jul 2016 at 23:53

Jesus, the video of someone walking about filming just after came up on Twitter. Like a horror movie.

phil675 · 14 Jul 2016 at 23:53

https://twitter.com/politicalbeauty/status/753715630830919680

Vid of truck, no injuries or anything, appears to be police shooting it

Tombstone · 14 Jul 2016 at 23:53

I've no idea what the answer is but one thing is for sure, these attacks are not reducing, whatever is the plan against the terrorists simply isnt making any difference. These attacks are not going to stop they will continue indefinitely and whatever it is that our nations are attempting isnt working. Not sure what needs to be done but clearly something in our strategy needs to change.

TheStarkFactor · 14 Jul 2016 at 23:54

Thompson_NCL said:
Large Muslim population that has essentially been left to its own devices.

Roar87 said:
A lot of the attacks have been committed with high powered assault rifles like AKs, you'd struggle to get those into the UK without being flagged up pretty quickly. In France they have large borders with much easier access. Nothing stopping someone doing this in the UK with a lorry though.

Thanks.

I guess, like with many things, its a complex mix of issues and variables.

I was just curious as France really seems to have been through the mill recently.

Mynight · 14 Jul 2016 at 23:58

Moses said:
How could there not being free movement of people have stopped this happening? It's a bloke with a lorry. The free movement of people wasn't a 'significant enabler', here. I could fly to almost any country in the World tomorrow, steal a truck, then crash into people.

Fair point.