8700k/8086k vs 2700x

[aoaaron]

Which would you for out of these 2 CPUs if they were the same price?

 

[AMDPower]

2700x

 

[Panos]

Which would you for out of these 2 CPUs if they were the same price?

2700X

 

[Aretak]

At the same price the 2700X is a no-brainer IMO, but then I do own one. There may be a case for the 8600K if you only ever play games and plan to overclock it to 5GHz, or plan to shell out for a 9900K in the future (in which case, don't skimp on the motherboard).

 

[aoaaron]

Can someone explain why? From benches the 8600k seems to kill the 2700x. How about 8700k vs 2700x?

 

[Phil2008]

At the same price the 2700X is a no-brainer IMO, but then I do own one. There may be a case for the 8600K if you only ever play games and plan to overclock it to 5GHz, or plan to shell out for a 9900K in the future (in which case, don't skimp on the motherboard).

I think I may of skimped on my motherboard a tad as its only the Gigabyte Z370 HD3P with my 8086k, But my system is a all rounder, not just gaming. But its overclocked the cpu to 4.9 and Im getting 1600 in cinebench, so not too bad for a okish motherboard... I could get 5ghz but im only using my Thermalright TRUE cooler from my 2500k cpu

 

[aoaaron]

I've editted the title now... as I put 8600k... i've switched to the 8700k.

I can get a 8700k bundle for £720-750 and a 8086k bundle for £750ish.. (mobo/ram/cpu/cooler)

So why is the 2700x better than the 8700k/8086k?



I'd like to mention I actually suck at overclocking so would most likely be running at stock.

I mainly do VR gaming, 4k gaming. No high refresh rate gaming yet. I video edit and emulate rarely.

 

[jimjamuk]

Another vote for 2700x

 

[Phil2008]

I'd like to mention I actually suck at overclocking so would most likely be running at stock.

Overclocking is the worst thing ever when getting a new pc if you get sucked into it, as it takes days/weeks to get it running right.. But you just cant have the cpu running at stock, you need to get the best speed from your cpu to make your money go a tad further. I dont bother overclocking anything else though, only the cpu.

 

[aoaaron]

Overclocking is the worst thing ever when getting a new pc if you get sucked into it, as it takes days/weeks to get it running right.. But you just cant have the cpu running at stock, you need to get the best speed from your cpu to make your money go a tad further. I dont bother overclocking anything else though, only the cpu.

I normally think I will only overclock when I need more CPU power.

 

[TonyTurbo78]

8700k is still king when it comes to gaming, so if it's solely for that, 8700k wins against the 2700k. If you do a lot of other things on PC, editing, recording, rendering, multi tasking etc then the 2700k will probably be a better shout.

 

[energizer123]

Depends what you're doing. 8700k is the best gaming CPU. If you do lots of other things too worth looking at Ryzen.

 

[aoaaron]

8700k is still king when it comes to gaming, so if it's solely for that, 8700k wins against the 2700k. If you do a lot of other things on PC, editing, recording, rendering, multi tasking etc then the 2700k will probably be a better shout.

I aim to do 90% of the time gaming, emulation, vr gaming.
10% of the time, video editing [at most]. Even then, I'm not time restricted.

 

[Phil2008]

I normally think I will only overclock when I need more CPU power.

I overclock straight after installing windows...Basically get the cpu sorted right from the word go, then that pig of a job is done and dusted.

 

[gavinh87]

I aim to do 90% of the time gaming, emulation, vr gaming.
10% of the time, video editing [at most]. Even then, I'm not time restricted.

8700k even moreso for emulation.

 

[TonyTurbo78]

I aim to do 90% of the time gaming, emulation, vr gaming.
10% of the time, video editing [at most]. Even then, I'm not time restricted.

8700k then, most will do 4.8ghz to 5.0ghz with fair amount of ease. 6 cores 12 threads is enough for your 10% non gaming tasks.

35 game test here, 8700k wins outright in all but a few
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.techspot.com/amp/review/1655-core-i7-8700k-vs-ryzen-7-2700x/

 

[aoaaron]

8700k then, most will do 4.8ghz to 5.0ghz with fair amount of ease. 6 cores 12 threads is enough for your 10% non gaming tasks.

35 game test here, 8700k wins outright in all but a few
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.techspot.com/amp/review/1655-core-i7-8700k-vs-ryzen-7-2700x/

8700k even moreso for emulation.

Thanks guys, will the 8086k do?

Cant find the 8700k for a decent price <400, can for the 8086k.

 

[TonyTurbo78]

Thanks guys, will the 8086k do?

Cant find the 8700k for a decent price <400, can for the 8086k.

The 8086k is anniversary chip, binned. I think 90% will hit higher than 5.1ghz if memory serves me correct, it's essentially the same CPU. The 8086k should cost more than the 8700k, so if you find one of them under 400 notes, snap it up.

 

[Aretak]

35 game test here, 8700k wins outright in all but a few
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.techspot.com/amp/review/1655-core-i7-8700k-vs-ryzen-7-2700x/

In most games they're essentially even at 1440p, with the 2700X even winning a few. And the OP is gaming at 4K based on another thread. Your own link doesn't even agree with you about the 8700K stomping the 2700X. Perhaps read things before posting them.

Then finally at 1440p the 8700K was a mere 4% faster on average. Removing the older titles where Ryzen got served, CS:GO and SC2, reduces the margin by just a percent. Of course, we are mostly GPU limited at this resolution but what this means there's very little difference between these two CPUs for gamers.

Having established that the Core i7-8700K is hands down faster than the Ryzen 7 2700X for gaming, it's also not a great deal faster. Realistically at 1080p with a beastly graphics card you’ll stand to gain up to 15% performance at the high-end, but will more often see gains of 10% or less.

4% faster! With a 5GHz 8700K at "just" 1440p. What a spectacular victory for the king of gaming CPUs! Certainly worth the extra £100+ there, especially when that'll drop to 0% at 4K like the OP is running. But hey, king of 720p and 1080p when paired with a 1080 Ti. Something to splash on the marketing material, that.

8700k even moreso for emulation.

Do you plan to back up this statement with any facts at all? I'm so sick of reading people say this with no justification whatsoever. Name one game on one emulator that runs at full speed on an 8700K and doesn't on a 2700X. One game, which I'll test and report back on. That's all I ask.

 

[Phil2008]

Do you plan to back up this statement with any facts at all? I'm so sick of reading people say this with no justification whatsoever. Name one game on one emulator that runs at full speed on an 8700K and doesn't on a 2700X. One game, which I'll test and report back on. That's all I ask.

I think he's getting at, its best having a higher clock speed for emulation current and future games.

Basically if you do more gaming, go intel or AMD if you do more multitasking/encoding ext... For abit of everything its up to you, intel or amd will do the job, but Im a raw clockspeed man.

Plus what cpu will last longest,, its not just "now" its the "future" too,,, Will the higher clock count and slower clock speed be better option, or will the higher clock speed and a less core count be best looking into the future? ...... Its a mine field, it really is..