I also no have a 4k TV in my house as am to poor to buy one
(or am too tight to buy one
)Or that I know there very little 4k stuff to watch so it not worth running out and buying one yet
8K TV any one?
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(or am too tight to buy one
)Or that I know there very little 4k stuff to watch so it not worth running out and buying one yet
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who in the hell would buy a 4k tv for their mate?
i don't know what the figure is for 4K uptake. Within the enthusiast and geek market probably very high. Like 60-75%.
within the mass market probably around 5%. like i said nobody at work in my team has one. none of my mates do either.
the majority don't give a monkeys about quality either. so to them a tv is a tv. i even know 2-3 different sets of people who live in homes worth over £600K yet to 4K tv. why? because they don't give a monkeys about technology.
you can pretty much cancel out everyone over the age of 60. there will be exceptions but they will only buy a new tv when the old one breaks. so it could be another 10 years before they buy a 4k tv. however as they get older then tend to be in care homes with small rooms and therefore they will be buying small tv's which will be 1080p.
there is no way 40% is anywhere near accurate.
Have the 75 inch version of the Samsung on order. Delivery expected in about a week. Will certainly be putting it through its paces and comparing to the LG E6 OLED I had and Q9FN 4K TV that went back a few months ago. From what iv read the upscaling of HD and 4K is supposed to be spectacular. Add to that melting my eyeballs with 4800nits of brightness lol
Another persons calculation suggesting usa 50% penetration next year
https://www.tellusventure.com/blog/4k-tv-will-be-in-half-of-u-s-homes-by-end-of-2019/
it's happening.
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some people on bell-curve will not upgrade to 4k, some people will change all the tv's in their house, but average can be 50%
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https://www.tellusventure.com/blog/4k-tv-will-be-in-half-of-u-s-homes-by-end-of-2019/
it's happening.
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LOL : look up means/distributions wrt to statistics -
some people on bell-curve will not upgrade to 4k, some people will change all the tv's in their house, but average can be 50%
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The bigger the panel the more likely it's going to have loads of issues.
Backlight bleed, banding, ghosting, dse, etc.
I personally think 55-60 is where it's at for the moment.
Hopefully you win the panel lottery. But most people don't even know what a good panel is
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Still perfectly happy with my 1080p OLED 
Nothing is even broadcast in 4k yet. And to be honest, on a 55 inch TV at a reasonable viewing distance, 1080p is all you really need.
When a 4k 65 inch OLED can be had for under £1500, I will consider an upgrade.
8k is just not even worth thinking about yet.
Nothing is even broadcast in 4k yet. And to be honest, on a 55 inch TV at a reasonable viewing distance, 1080p is all you really need.
When a 4k 65 inch OLED can be had for under £1500, I will consider an upgrade.
8k is just not even worth thinking about yet.
I'm interested to know how this turns out. Lots of impressions pls! I'm still a pj guy for large images, but panels will catch up and overtake. There's no real option for massive and bright atm and this is definitively a step in the right direction!
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The 4000 nit plus brightness on the Samsung is insane, the only professional monitor that can hit that has to be leased from Dolby and is water cooled or you can rent out one of their theatres and projector!
not on freeview/sat, but if you read avforums they reckon 4k 15Mb/s netflix/prime/sky streams give same effect as having the blue-ray disk local. (ignoring hdr component),
so perversely having a 4k tv to get 1080p blue ray quality is necessary.
similarly
if we get to 8K streaming, it may look like, actually having, the 4k disc.
for oled, anyway, bigger screens are not necessarily worse - manufacturing variability/trade-off between larger pixel(feature) manufacture and small features;
similarly, printing small features for semiconductors(chips) presents it's own problems (older versus newer intel processors say), where for small features use of particular lasers and immersion techniques (look up DUV) is needed to ensure they are constrcucted with precision, versus the larger features.
The USA is NOT THE WORLD .......
I'd expect them to be higher than most Countries as most of them are guts and like to tv binge..
"The current population of the United States of America is 327,420,002 as of Sunday, October 14, 2018, based on the latest United Nations estimates. the United States population is equivalent to 4.28% of the total world population."
Hmm..... Now let's see.... My maths can't quite equate a 40% 4k TV figure if you have 4% of the TOTAL world population
Oh by way ... Total world population is 7.7 BILLION
[ for Mr Trump it is the bit that counts -
remember - the context of the original 40% remark was an unspecified group called 'the users' ,
techpowerup is probably targetted at the usa too; so substantiating a 50% call, for usa and us/uk is adequate ?
its a pity everyone did not proof-check the Bojos £350mil
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remember - the context of the original 40% remark was an unspecified group called 'the users' ,
techpowerup is probably targetted at the usa too; so substantiating a 50% call, for usa and us/uk is adequate ?
its a pity everyone did not proof-check the Bojos £350mil
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Funnily enough I had a 75 Q9FN before this and it was the most uniform TV iv ever owned. Zero tint and very little if barely any DSE. It turned out that the 75's had better uniformity than the smaller models so hoping I get lucky this time too. Im very picky when it comes to getting a good panel. Went through a few Oled's a few years ago before I got a good one. Will definatly leave some impressions on what I think of this tv compared to my previous Q9FN and E6 OLED.
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It is a little crazy but the reports are mixed from all the reviews. The UK reviews all reported 3300 nits max and the USA reviews measured 4800nits which is insane lol. In dynamic/standard mode of course. I believe its around 2000-2700 in movie mode.
Has Vincent not reviewed it then ? I would expect him to recognise and resolve any inconsistencies, albeit he communicates findings via videos, not the rigour you see on rtings site.
i have a 55 E6 at the mo, i can't comment on your points about the likeliness of issue but my personal opinion is that if i wanted to go bigger than 55 i'd go for a projector.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtkGM7H6Kq8
so he talks about 1600 nits after calibration , and 3300 nits dynamically for 4-5s pre-calibration, but it is not very clear
480 local dimming zones, and the 'hot unit' !
His initial discussion about the firmware algorithm being updated to improve upscaling, as a result of customer image samples (Automatically?) being sent to Samsung headquarters seems an excuse for poor initial algorithms/processing ? - there might be scope for heuristics in an upscaling algorithm, but best in class algorithms are publicised afaik (if you have sufficient gpu/processing power)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seam_carving ??? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_art_scaling_algorithms ]
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projectors IMO should be minimum 100 inches plus.
I have a mate who has a 75 inch tv. however he has went through several tv's to end up with a panel with no issues. saying that it isn't perfect. as soon as you stand up or sit to the side the colours distort a lot. a problem with VA panels. i think he had a 65 inch which he had to send back due to banding and a colour issue. he downsized to the 55 which had less issues. he then bought a 65 inch the following year. then sold that the year after to get a 75".
problem is people have been brainwashed into thinking IPS is bad for TV's for some reason and that VA is better because it has darker blacks. those that have seen my IPS and own a VA themselves have commented how the colours look more natural on mine.
i think right now buying a 65 inch or bigger is basically a gamble. wait a few years and they will be much better. buying a 75" would be a huge no due to cost and issues for me. so i get your point about a projector. however personally i feel you need a fully customised room for a projector. controlled lighting, etc. you need to cater the whole room to suit a projector. darkly painted matt walls or even covered in fabric, etc.
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Still have a 1080 Panasonic plasma and as much as I enjoy my TV i will keep it till it dies.
