8pack 3600mhz c16 vs Patriot Viper Steel 4400mhz

faceman123 · 27 Feb 2020 at 14:18

Hi which is better - I will use for build in my sig

Ree · 27 Feb 2020 at 15:14

crucial ballistix have new 3600 c16 (16-18-18-38) kits now and rgb if your into that for £89 last i looked.

faceman123 · 27 Feb 2020 at 15:16

ree said:
crucial ballistix have new 3600 c16 (16-18-18-38) kits now and rgb if your into that for £89 last i looked.

many thanks - im looking for something thats 3600 cl 16 tight or cl14 @3600mhz - is the kit you meantion b die?

Ree · 27 Feb 2020 at 15:24

faceman123 said:
many thanks - im looking for something thats 3600 cl 16 tight or cl14 @3600mhz - is the kit you meantion b die?

no it's micron e-die.

faceman123 · 27 Feb 2020 at 15:27

ree said:
no it's micron e-die.

how does this fare on tightening timings

Ree · 27 Feb 2020 at 15:31

faceman123 said:
how does this fare on tightening timings

i cant answer that mate sorry. not tinkered with mine i only set xmp.

faceman123 · 27 Feb 2020 at 15:32

ree said:
i cant answer that mate sorry. not tinkered with mine i only set xmp.

no problem - thanks for the replies though - i found a kit of which you meantion for £145 including 3600mhz tempted lol

Ree · 27 Feb 2020 at 15:36

faceman123 said:
no problem - thanks for the replies though - i found a kit of which you meantion for £145 including 3600mhz tempted lol

they do ballistix max kits which are 4000 and 4400 too but a helluva price premium on them.

Shac · 27 Feb 2020 at 20:32

Viper steel 4400Mhz kits are quality rated at 94%
£109 currently which is a pain since i purchased another 16Gb earlier this week at £128.

Ah well sheet happens.

Robert896r1 · 8 Mar 2020 at 10:07

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nt4ap20lO5xpAceNT6EDuTwtaqWylb4oBReipH9s6oQ/edit

You can put the timings, frequency and voltage here to determine the quality of any bdie kit before buying.

the best bin currently is the 15/3600 gskill A2 pcb kit.

The Old School Gamer · 8 Mar 2020 at 18:32

Product review for 4000mhz kit here on OcUK.

Adrian said:
Picked up 2 sets during promotion at a very good price considering it's B-die, using with 3900X and Aorus master motherboard. Using Ryzen DRAM calculator figures it is achieving stable 3600mhz 14-15-14-28-42 at 1.45v with 4 sticks populated.

Buildzoid likes the 4400 kit, he said it's some of the best b-die he has.

faceman123 · 11 Apr 2020 at 13:30

Shac said:
Viper steel 4400Mhz kits are quality rated at 94%
£109 currently which is a pain since i purchased another 16Gb earlier this week at £128.

Ah well sheet happens.

I'm ordering this for a family member, how did you get on with 4 dimms what speeds and timings on ryzen

Shac · 11 Apr 2020 at 19:09

I am running 4 sticks 32GB at 3600 16.16.16.32.48 @1.37 V
GDM on.
In fact now you have reminded me I may well try to improve this with all the spare time in shutdown.

FireTwo · 11 Apr 2020 at 19:32

I've impressed with the viper4400

temped to pick up a set of the 4000 to see if there's any difference at all...

here's my rock stable timmings at 1.5v
https://i.imgur.com/9RkPBku.png
https://imgur.com/NvwYyrk

faceman123 · 15 Apr 2020 at 23:06

Shac said:
I am running 4 sticks 32GB at 3600 16.16.16.32.48 @1.37 V
GDM on.
In fact now you have reminded me I may well try to improve this with all the spare time in shutdown.

FireTwo said:
I've impressed with the viper4400

temped to pick up a set of the 4000 to see if there's any difference at all...

here's my rock stable timmings at 1.5v
https://i.imgur.com/9RkPBku.png
https://imgur.com/NvwYyrk

WOW THIS STUFF WIPES THE FLOOR WITH 8PACK RAM LOL, I managed to get 3733@ c14

the below, I didn't play with any of the manual timing stuff all on AUTO except the below timings - ran mem test no errors is good to go?

rams going into family memebers pc though :\ tempted to keep it and order a second set!!

Shac · 16 Apr 2020 at 01:53

Does your Fabric clock and memory run in synch because auto often lowers it for stability.
Note my NB Frequency shows as 1799.6Mhz same as my Dram frequency.
I also have 32GB of the 4400 stuff running at C14 but at 3600Mhz and my tRc is only 48.
But yes it is good memory.

The Old School Gamer · 16 Apr 2020 at 12:07

@faceman123
Yup your North Bridge frequency has stepped down / isn't in sync.

Example.

@FireTwo
1.5v is pushing it, how hot are your modules running under load?

faceman123 · 16 Apr 2020 at 12:18

Shac said:
Does your Fabric clock and memory run in synch because auto often lowers it for stability.
Note my NB Frequency shows as 1799.6Mhz same as my Dram frequency.
I also have 32GB of the 4400 stuff running at C14 but at 3600Mhz and my tRc is only 48.
But yes it is good memory.

The Old School Gamer said:
Yup your North Bridge frequency has stepped down / isn't in sync.

Ah bleh anyone got some settings I could punch in to my x570

Shac · 16 Apr 2020 at 19:46

No guarantees due to diff boards and chip variation but for 32Gb I am using the below.

First the normal result for 3600 32Gb as a starter but enter it all dont just pick the parts that appeal to you.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!ArMHGD-yylU7gdsI8Dfu6bP66KZrTQ?e=7BuPyJ

If you just want to change the settings you already have I would suggest dont bother do it all or just sit back and relax.

This page shows current timings that I have changed to have it running at C14 with a Membench score of 105.69

https://1drv.ms/u/s!ArMHGD-yylU7gdsJSm2Msp-_-AUnfw?e=eut68r

I have put the Dram volts up to 1.45 and will be lowering if possible in the next few days but 1.45 is acceptable if not.