Poll: 9/11. A Poll.

[L0rdMike]

I do believe there is more to the events that we do not know.

Conspiracy though I couldnt tell you.

 

[Werewolf]

There should be another category which is 'Brilliant planning by Al Qaeda'.
Nobody could have prevented it at the time but its nice to see that the political correctness they had then has now gone.
It also gave an excuse for America to invade Afghanistan for their massive oil reserves.

I think it was in part some good planning by Al Qaeda, but the fact the terrorists managed to get knives onto the aircraft, the manner in which the FAA were not overly worried about the "lost" aircraft at first, and the fact that Norad by all accounts were not ready to respond to the threat, had no armed fighters ready and didn't know who they had to ask to get fire authority (and then it seems couldn't locate the president at first) all makes the big difference between it working and not working.

Basically the terrorists had a pretty good plan and were well organised, but the U.S. authorities didn't take airline security seriously enough for internal flights, and when the excriment hit the cooling device they were caught with their pants around their ankles.
The idea of an airliner being used as a missile wasn't even that new, iirc there is some evidence that it had been explored as a possible risk prior to 9/11, and it had certainly been written about in a book from a very well known author before 9/11.

 

[Saberu]

I love a good conspiracy but in this case I'd have to say nay. Theres no way the US would want to cripple their economy by destroying the WTC.

 

[dirtydog]

I love a good conspiracy but in this case I'd have to say nay. Theres no way the US would want to cripple their economy by destroying the WTC.

And did 9/11 cripple their economy? No

What might have crippled their economy would have been if Iraq had started trading oil in euros instead of dollars, which they were planning to do under Saddam... and had the other middle east oil producing nations then followed suit.

 

[RetiredGreyFox]

It also gave an excuse for America to invade Afghanistan for their massive oil reserves.

I realised you were taking the mick but what you're really saying is that America went to war with terrorists because theres nothing else there.The invasion of Eye-rack came later.

 

[Hellsmk2]

On one hand I don't think that the story and subsequently the justification for going to war is all it seems from the publics point of view, on the other I do not think it is a government conspiracy to the extent that the government held some pilots family ransom so he would fly the plane into a demolition explosive rigged twin towers, as some people would have you believe.

The public do not need to know the whole truth it would do us no good I am sure, and I'm sure (after watching too much 24) that the gov. has to make many a hard decision that need to be kept 'secret'.

That's the attitutde governments the world over absolutely love

Governments throughout all history have a well documented history of lying to the masses and covering up blunders. I might be in the minority here, but I personally would like to know when an elected body has made a massive mess up. I certainly don't want to give any government a blank cheque to do as they please and then hide it from the public because "the public does not need to know."

If errors are made, whether that be the US's handling 9/11, the sinking of the Belgravo, or the false pretense under which we've been made to go to war, then those who made those mistakes should be held accountable.

You should be glad that there are many people willing to question those in power. The world is a much better place today because of it (although it doesn't seem that way a lot of the time).

 

[willd58]

Can we have added to the poll,

"A very deadly terrorist attack, the american goverment were not to blame"

KaHn

Really don't see the need. The US government were clearly to blame either way - either they colluded in it's inception, chose not to stop it (which I consider to be the same as the first option), or were too inept to stop it.

Its an opinion i share, i do not think the US goverment were to blaim at all, and to deny the choice makes it a kind of retarded poll and a retarded circle jerk of a thread.

The US government were clearly to blame either way

This is your opinion, not fact, it may be based on the facts but its your opinion, to deny debate or choice on the matter is fricking stupid.

 

[titaniumx3]

Can't even consider this in the West. I can imagine the East and Middle East doing it though.

Thanks, another reply in favour of my 'hypothetical' scenario!

Anymore?

Oh heres a nice map for those who think Afghanistan was just a holy crusade against barbaric terrorists.

Also don't forget the opium poppy fields!

 

[subzero]

The only questions which keep popping into my head are why the united states let the planes fly into the towers.

They must have known those planes were off course,they certainly knew after the first plane hit.

I believe its standard practice to scramble fighter planes in the USA for situations like this,196 fighter planes were scramled last year alone for suspect cases like this.

 

[Joe42]

The idea of an airliner being used as a missile wasn't even that new, iirc there is some evidence that it had been explored as a possible risk prior to 9/11, and it had certainly been written about in a book from a very well known author before 9/11.

At 9:49 a.m. on Saturday July 28, 1945, a B-25 Mitchell bomber flying in a thick fog accidentally crashed into the north side between the 79th and 80th floors, where the offices of the National Catholic Welfare Council were located; one engine shot through the side opposite the impact and another plummeted down an elevator shaft. The fire was extinguished in 40 minutes. 14 people were killed in the accident.

It shouldn't have taken too much thought to realise that this could easily be done on purpose.

 

[Morlan]

In any case I do recommend the 9/11 Press For Truth Video,

Skip to 43:48. Bush put right on the spot. HE'S A LIEING ******

 

[RetiredGreyFox]

Also don't forget the opium poppy fields!

So we invaded because we wanted to control the drugs trade?

 

[Zip]

Sorry but, WHATS WRONG WITH 188 OF YOU!!!!!

 

[Morlan]

Sorry but, WHATS WRONG WITH 188 OF YOU!!!!!

There were only two options, neither of which applied to my views, however, I believe that the Bush administration are hiding something terrible, and as such, I chose option B.

 

[Von Smallhausen]

So we invaded because we wanted to control the drugs trade?

I do wonder though why the British have said that they will not destroy the opium crop, when the fight against opium production is supposedly a priority. When over 90 per cent of heroin in the UK is grown in Afghan fields, I have to wonder about that decision.

 

[Zip]

I do wonder though why the British have said that they will not destroy the opium crop, when the fight against opium production is supposedly a priority. When over 90 per cent of heroin in the UK is produced in Afghanistan, I have to wonder about that decision.

Isnt Opium used to make morephene and other drugs used in Hospitals to treat patients as well though?

 

[Von Smallhausen]

There were only two options, neither of which applied to my views, however, I believe that the Bush administration are hiding something terrible, and as such, I chose option B.

It isn't a closed debate on the options Morlan, please add any you think relevant or indeed better.

 

[Von Smallhausen]

Isnt Opium used to make morephene and other drugs used in Hospitals to treat patients as well though?

I am not sure if medical grade morphine comes from there Zip. I will look into that though, and I didn't consider that option.

 

[Zip]

I am not sure if medical grade morhine comes from there Zip. I will look into that though, and I didn't consider that option. Thank you,

Tell me your findings because i want to know this to