Poll: 9/11. A Poll.

Were the 9/11 attacks a result of ..

  • The US Government caught napping.

    Votes: 512 68.5%

  • A conspiracy by the US Government and others.

    Votes: 235 31.5%
  • Total voters
    747
Radiation said:
Read my last post if you missed it and do your own research or go by someone who has done a lot of research already, its hardly worth my time to do your challenge, im not going to make you believe if you don't see anything suspicious at all, the mass media has a fair bit of bs being controlled in a big way by just a few, rarely do we get good physical corroborating evidence for these terror plots and so on, the bigger picture is more than 9/11, start somewhere like www.infowars.com, still probably all the reports, documents and video evidence won't be enough for you to see that bad stuff is likely going on behind the scenes.
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I could laugh for hours...
 
cleanbluesky said:
I anticipate that a few posters might like a "The Jews did it" option...
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And can I have an 'Aliens did it' one please?

Can't see the point of this really.
Lets say it ends up at 60/40 in favour of America caught napping, then somebody like Nicola would say that they can't believe we've all got our heads in the sand.

I would like to see a poll with those choices and age groups because I really believe that most of the conspiracy believers are on the younger side.
 
Linoge said:
Personally I think the American government were aware of it and allowed it to happen so they could, in the eyes of the American people 'legitimately' pursue avenues that they had no reason to beforehand.
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Spot on
 
USA playing the "feel sorry for us" card so they can go bully some middle eastern countries. keeps people on their toes and allows governments more rights to track your movements.
 
I cant believe that so far nearly 33% of the voters think this was some sort of conspiracy!

I think they could have justified the "war on terror" with something a lot smaller if that was the reason behind it, something I dont believe for a second.
 
FordPrefect said:
I cant believe that so far nearly 33% of the voters think this was some sort of conspiracy!

I think they could have justified the "war on terror" with something a lot smaller if that was the reason behind it, something I dont believe for a second.
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Do you believe everything the American/British government has stated about 9/11?
 
i voted, The US Government caught napping.


i do not believe for one minute that we know fully what happened that day, nor do i think we will understand its true implications for some time to come.

I voted the way i did purely because its the most logical answer, not that its actually the right one. im keeping an open mind.
 
Mulder said:
And 70% are living in a fantasy land to an even greater extent.
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Don't think it's fantasy at all (the 70%) - I just don't credit governments with sufficient intelligence to (a) pull it off, and (b) avoid it getting leaked.

If you vote for the conspiracy, then you are crediting GWB et. al. with intelligence, and that just doesn't work. :)
 
Linoge said:
Do you believe everything the American/British government has stated about 9/11?
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I believe the Govts have told us lots of lies about 9/11 but basically covering up their incompetence.

Why can't people believe the people who said they did it? Al Qaeda have stated time and time again that they did it so whats so hard about that? The Muslim world look on 9/11 has their greatest victory over the West so why can't you theorists believe them?
If I was Osama Bin Laden I could have really put poo in the fan. After the attacks I could have publicly announced to the world that it wasn't Al Qaeda but in fact it was America themselves.
Sometimes people are so dumb it hurts.

Somebody said in another thread - Have you ever tried to keep a secret between only four people? - somebody will leak it and the American Govt aren't clever enough.
 
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rayb74 said:
The price of losing the Towers and 3,000 innocent people is small compared to what would happen to the U.S. if they had no oil or were held to ransom for it by the muslim (Arab) countries.
O.K. I don`t think it was "planned" by the U.S.A. I think that they turned a blind eye and were just waiting for any excuse to gain a significant military presence in an oil rich area of the world.

When are you people going to realise just how crippled the U.S.A. will be if starved of oil?
They have to protect/prolong their lifeline that is oil from the Middle East.
To be honest this is just the start of it.
As the major global oil fields (which are all incidentally past their peek production outputs) dry up other superpowers will start flexing their muscles - CHINA for example and conflicts around the globe will escalate.

Grim but I hope that I am totally wrong.
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I agree with that, the whole Bush administration all have dealings in oil compaines one way or another, the US is so much in debt its shocking and the Petro Dollar is the only thing keeping the US a superpower. Iran want to trade its oil in € instead of the $, now the US are pushing for an invasion of Iran, give it another decade and the US will control all middle east countries not willing to get in bed with them.
 
Voted "America Caught Napping"

There is no way that the Government of any country could have organised something on that scale.

The ineptitude of all the security services in America goes back decades, they were all told by many very reputable sources that there were fundamentalists planning large scale destruction even before the original van bomb attack on the WTC in 1993. All the services chose to ignore the information and look where it led.

If they had caught Ramzi Yousef before the first WTC attack and traced his funding they would have found Usama Bin Laden while he was still in Saudi Arabia, and been able to deal with him without any trouble. They let Ramzi go, because they thaught no single person or small group could do anything serious against them.

So he was able to blow up the garage at WTC, he admitted during questioning later, he was even trying to topple the buildings then.

In the mid 90's apparently the American security forces in league with the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan, had UBL in their sights so to speak, and were only seconds away from capturing him and taking him to the US to stand trial over funding the van bombing of the WTC.
However politicians (don't you just love them) in congress decided it was to much of a risk that UBL might get acccidentally injured or maybe even killed in the capture and that was a risk they would not take.

So in 1996 or thereabouts UBL could have been caught and imprisoned, would the second more deadly WTC attack have happened then??????
That is why I do not believe the US government organised the attack, but I do believe they could have stopped it ever happening long before it did.
 
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Berserker said:
If you vote for the conspiracy, then you are crediting GWB et. al. with intelligence, and that just doesn't work. :)
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That's assuming he knew about it in the first place. I don't believe for a second that a man as thick has him could have much say in the running of his country. I see him as a spokesman that millions of Americans relate to who's manipulated by the hawks or whoever in the background. Completely OT but just the way I see him.

Regarding the actual topic, I'm keeping my vote to myself as it's obvious no one can have an opinion without it being attacked by someone else.
 
dmpoole said:
I believe the Govts have told us lots of lies about 9/11 but basically covering up their incompetence.

Why can't people believe the people who said they did it? Al Qaeda have stated time and time again that they did it so whats so hard about that? The Muslim world look on 9/11 has their greatest victory over the West so why can't you theorists believe them?
If I was Osama Bin Laden I could have really put poo in the fan. After the attacks I could have publicly announced to the world that it wasn't Al Qaeda but in fact it was America themselves.
Sometimes people are so dumb it hurts.

Somebody said in another thread - Have you ever tried to keep a secret between only four people? - somebody will leak it and the American Govt aren't clever enough.
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I see what you are saying, but people who don't fully believe what they are being told by both governments shouldn't be fobbed off and labelled conspiracy theorists. I agree that it was terrorists and OBL that planned the WTC attacks. What I cannot believe is that the American government didn't know about it at all.

I keep hearing people saying the American Govt aren't clever, so why should we whole heartedly trust these guys over 9/11 and the supposed facts they have released as well?

I'm sure the American Government still has many secrets from many years ago and recent ones as well, not everything is leaked, I think that is a common misconception.
 
By watching Loose Change and a few other documentrys they really have swayed me towards "A conspiracy by the US Government"
 
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