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970's having performance issues using 4GB Vram - Nvidia investigating

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But......regardless of what issues we may or may not be getting.....they have just said.....its not as advertised. Didn't they?

Wtf

How can they stop refunds now?

Surely they can't

:(
 
Well lied/misled will be impossible to prove, but by their own admission they made a mistake and the entire time the card has been out have failed to tell anyone about it.

I also get that in the majority of situations it will make zero difference, but the simple fact is that they withheld information from the consumers that would have affected many people buying the product.

To me anything else is moot, if people are happy to keep their cards I’m glad they are satisfied, it seemed for many not knowing was more of an issue then the actual issue. For me I’m not sure if I’m more annoyed out of principle then anything else.
 
They've put their foot in it with the ROP count, the masses wont like that.

But, guys, please take the time to read the article properly. the 500mb partition is 1/7th the speed if it's accessed on its own, as per Nai's benchmark. However,

NVIDIA’s performance labs continue to work away at finding examples of this occurring and the consensus seems to be something in the 4-6% range. A GTX 970 without this memory pool division would run 4-6% faster than the GTX 970s selling today in high memory utilization scenarios. Obviously this is something we can’t accurately test though – we don’t have the ability to run a GTX 970 without a disabled L2/ROP cluster like NVIDIA can. All we can do is compare the difference in performance between a reference GTX 980 and a reference GTX 970 and measure the differences as best we can, and that is our goal for this week.
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Needs more testing of course but it shouldnt cause the stuttering. I actually think the stuttering is happening when the gpu is hitting the 3.6gb ceiling. It's almost like it doesnt want to use that second partition and starts paging or something.

mmj_uk said:
Nope, it's just something we haven't really seen done before - it's a capability new to Maxwell architecture.
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Not true. I already mentioned the 660ti had a similar memory setup and so does the 550ti. It's detailed in the pcper article.
 
Problem is, I myself wouldn't be happy knowing that an eighth of the ram onboard the card isn't upto scratch!!! I'd at least be considering switching to a 980 if I could, knowing it's a fully-functional card
 
I called up OC's earlier in the week to RMA the card but didn't have my order number so told to call back to get my RMA, I was going to leave it hoping that Nvidia could release a patch which would fix the issues I'm having but that doesn't seem like the case anymore so I'll be requesting the RMA tomorrow and hopefully going back to my 290 and then it's a case of waiting it out till the 390 or 390x is released.

For better or for worse I'll let you guys know how it goes although I do have a feeling I'll be told where to go lol.

Anyway thanks to everyone that helped test the cards out!
 
I FEEL WORSE AFTER READING THE ** No disguised swearing, any swearing must be fully starred out ** ARTICLE.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORSE!
 
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ICEx21 said:
I'm certainly having one so in my opinion yes there is.
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I'm having no issues, not in any games I play which includes Farcry 4 and Battlefield. I have the Inno3D 970 and have read on one of the other forums that someone else with the same card is having no issues either? Tbh I'm not going out to actively look for the problem either. As long as what I play looks good and is running at a good frame rate I'm happy. I think the whole thing is being blown slightly out of proportion.
 
interesting stuff..

The part they have misstated to some initial reviewers, however not if I see correctly in the actual marketing specs.

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/maxwell-architecture-gtx-980-970

Take OCUK's sales info for instance, has any of that changed ?

- GeForce GTX 970
- GPU: GeForce GTX 970 (GM204)
- Core Base Clock: 1140MHz
- Core Boost Clock: 1279MHz
- Memory Clock: 7010MHz
- Memory Size: 4096MB GDDR5
- Bus Type: PCI Express 3.0
- Memory Bus: 256-bit
- CUDA Cores: 1664
- DirectX 12: Yes
- DVI Port: 2x Dual-Link DVI, 1x DisplayPort & 1x HDMI
- DisplayPort: Yes
- HDCP: Yes
- HDMI: Yes
- Power: 1x 8-Pin & 1x 6-Pin
- 450W PSU Required
- 150W TDP

A bit of a mess, however, such a minor one imo..
The biggest problem - Lots of misinformation, trolling, baiting and scaremongering.

The card performs as advertised, the reviews still stand.
 
james.miller said:
should he care? I mean, if people want to send the cards back then fair play. But if it doesnt make any difference to performance, then why should he care?
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Because if I bought a 4 wheel drive car only to find out after 3 months of happy motoring in the summer that it actually uses an under age, ginger ferret to push instead of the 4th wheel driving, I would be rightly entitled to give many, oh so many ** No disguised swearing, all swearing must be fully starred out **

J
 
james.miller said:
should he care? I mean, if people want to send the cards back then fair play. But if it doesnt make any difference to performance, then why should he care?
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it does though as the ROP`s are tied to the crossbar etc , which means if textures are stored in the 500mb part of the ram and get accessed @ 1/7th the rate - you`ll get stuttering as the card stalls waiting.
 
silverfoxxxx said:
I did wonder if it's good and they price drop it a bit more than they may have originally had planned then quite a few will move across. Whether it turns out to be an issue or not it's a bit of a mess.
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well they deffo wont admit guilt, not unless they're stupid and my guess is they wont lower their prices either........ this means most of us will wait for the 380X or the 390X.

but you'd better take care here, because i deffo wont buy any future card with only 4GB RAM......because this disaster has highlighted one important point.............4GB RAM aint enough with everything maxed out

my guess is Nvidia will fix this card, upgrade it to 6GB RAM and rebrand it in late summer, because after all, it's still a damned good card
 
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