980TI Oc'd Keeps pace with 1080.

Jono8 · 3 Jun 2016 at 09:26

Raikiri said:
From what I've seen the 980Ti and 1070 are about even, but with the 1070 generally winning by a small margin.

Which is exactly what we would expect? It's better than last time when the 780Ti was mostly faster than the 970 at release.

A £320-400 card faster than one that costs 500+, that uses less power, has more memory and more features... seems pretty good to me.

Indeed. Shows good gains in dx12 aswell (hitman and ashes) over the 980ti

nashathedog · 3 Jun 2016 at 09:40

At the moment Nvidia are milking the buyers but once both sides have there whole ranges available and prices are adjusted it should in theory sit where the 970/390 sit on the totem pole making it a win for those of us who wait till then to buy. Having said that they may keep prices higher than the 900/300 gen because of the performance boost but that isn't really fair as we are meant to get better performance from each generation without paying extra for every frame.

Boomstick777 · 3 Jun 2016 at 09:44

SalfordBoys said:
If the launch was £499 then, just about, OK. The launch price puts a really negative perspective on its performance though in my opinion.

Performance not so much the issue as PP £

Yeah man, I would pick one up at £499. That would be a good price for a refresh card (Not the real replacement for 980 Ti tier) that's a bit faster than the previous high end.

Oh well just vote with your wallet. I am doing well so far lol. Resisted. Once the Hybrid card comes out it might get harder to resist

SS-89 · 3 Jun 2016 at 10:06

To be fair the 980 was only a marginal improvement over the 780Ti. However OC vs OC, 20% average improvement isn't worth the jump for me from my Titan X and I know I'd definitely regret forking out £600 when the inevitable next Titan/1080Ti comes out.

For now my TX handles everything on my 1440p gsync fine so I'll keep waiting.

IvanDobskey · 3 Jun 2016 at 10:07

The 1080 should really be the same price the 980 launched at.

Nvidia are counting on suckers and fanboys to pay what they are asking for it at the moment.

Jono8 · 3 Jun 2016 at 10:13

IvanDobskey said:
The 1080 should really be the same price the 980 launched at.

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Agreed, but AMD have nothing to compete, hence the price. The FuryX which is the closet AMD card performance wise is still over £500 so we've got no chance.

Bigminimus · 3 Jun 2016 at 10:23

Jono8 said:
Agreed, but AMD have nothing to compete, hence the price. The FuryX which is the closet AMD card performance wise is still over £500 so we've got cgance.

2 RX 480 in CF seems to go toe to toe with the 1080, for £200 less.

Jono8 · 3 Jun 2016 at 10:31

Bigminimus said:
2 RX 480 in CF seems to go toe to toe with the 1080, for £200 less.

More like ~£100 less if you want 8gb. Id rather have the single card.

Bigminimus · 3 Jun 2016 at 10:39

Jono8 said:
More like ~£100 less if you want 8gb. Id rather have the single card.

It's still cheaper.

Jono8 · 3 Jun 2016 at 10:41

Bigminimus said:
It's still cheaper.

Still not really direct competition either

Marine-RX179 · 3 Jun 2016 at 10:48

varkanoid said:
I had to laugh at this months PC Gamer. They had a reveal on the GTX 1xxx's and said the 1080 would be £400 and the 1070 £250 and based it on straight £-$.

Be interesting if they retract that in the next issue.

The problem is the so-called "$599 1080" doesn't exist, plus UK price gouging would mean the 1080 will not be at sub £500 (inc. VAT), but in fact it would be around around 12-20% higher in price comparing to the price they are expecting

Jono8 · 3 Jun 2016 at 10:51

Marine-RX179 said:
The problem is the so-called "$599 1080" doesn't exist, plus UK price gouging would mean the 1080 will not be at sub £500 (inc. VAT), but in fact it would be around around 12-20% higher in price comparing to the price they are expecting

It does, it just has £25 slapped on it for release /whilst stock is low.

Marine-RX179 · 3 Jun 2016 at 10:56

Jono8 said:
It does, it just has £25 slapped on it for release /whilst stock is low.

Sorry, but that £525 1080 is probably even worse than the FE 1080 in terms of cooling without the vapor-chamber, and it is certainly not the type of "3rd party card" that people are expecting.

The performance of the 1080 on reviews cannot be found on the FE card unless people were gaming with their PC case opened or for no more than 10 mins; to get the same performance that are show in the reviews, people need 1080 with custom cooler.

Jono8 · 3 Jun 2016 at 11:04

Marine-RX179 said:
Sorry, but that £525 1080 is probably even worse than the FE 1080 in terms of cooling without the vapor-chamber, and it is certainly not the type of "3rd party card" that people are expecting.

The performance of the 1080 on reviews cannot be found on the FE card unless people were gaming with their PC case opened or for no more than 10 mins; to get the same performance that are show in the reviews, people need 1080 with custom cooler.

Have you got a review of the custom blower cards?

Regardless, it's a 1080 for £525.

Radox-0 · 3 Jun 2016 at 11:18

Marine-RX179 said:
Sorry, but that £525 1080 is probably even worse than the FE 1080 in terms of cooling without the vapor-chamber, and it is certainly not the type of "3rd party card" that people are expecting.

The performance of the 1080 on reviews cannot be found on the FE card unless people were gaming with their PC case opened or for no more than 10 mins; to get the same performance that are show in the reviews, people need 1080 with custom cooler.

I am finding no issue with the 1080 FE maintaining 2000 Mhz for hours with a 65% fan profile. Its not quiet sure, but the cooler is quieter then the Titan X reference blower and in all performing very well. Though yes aftermarket will be better for those who want silence + high speed.

Zeed · 3 Jun 2016 at 11:31

In my opinion one needs to be retarded to compare Single card vs Crossfire or SLI.
Ye its can be on pair or faster solution WHEN IT ****ING WORKS.

SLI and Crossfire Reality:
- Does not work in most new games for weeks or months after they come out sometimes NEVER...
- Does not work with current VR stuff
- Does not work good with 3D gaming in most cases

SLI and Crossfire is for people that play games like:
3d MArk
Unigine heaven
Unigine valley
o wait..... them are not games.....

I had it and i was spending more time fighting to get **** running without micro stutter or working at all than playng the freaking games... Every game had its problems bigger or smaller :/

Marine-RX179 · 3 Jun 2016 at 11:59

Radox-0 said:
I am finding no issue with the 1080 FE maintaining 2000 Mhz for hours with a 65% fan profile. Its not quiet sure, but the cooler is quieter then the Titan X reference blower and in all performing very well. Though yes aftermarket will be better for those who want silence + high speed.

But the performance quoted in the reviews are with clock at 2150MHz+, in the short few minutes short benches done in open-air bench.

I'm not saying your 1080 is not a quick card, but FE card when used in real-world it is certainly not as quick as the reviews making it out to be. The 3rd party cards with good custom cooler on the other hand is far more likely to maintain the boost-clock at that level.

triss · 3 Jun 2016 at 12:31

Marine-RX179 said:
But the performance quoted in the reviews are with clock at 2150MHz+, in the short few minutes short benches done in open-air bench.

I'm not saying your 1080 is not a quick card, but FE card when used in real-world it is certainly not as quick as the reviews making it out to be. The 3rd party cards with good custom cooler on the other hand is far more likely to maintain the boost-clock at that level.

If radox is managing 2000 Mhz for hours with a 65% fan profile His card might well hold 2150 at 100% (assuming his card gets to it). Until we get a larger sample size and user bases its not certain one way or the other

Radox-0 · 3 Jun 2016 at 12:31

Marine-RX179 said:
But the performance quoted in the reviews are with clock at 2150MHz+, in the short few minutes short benches done in open-air bench.

I'm not saying your 1080 is not a quick card, but FE card when used in real-world it is certainly not as quick as the reviews making it out to be. The 3rd party cards with good custom cooler on the other hand is far more likely to maintain the boost-clock at that level.

Yes they cannot maintain 2150 Mhz for long period unless you ramp up the fan. If you do ramp up the fan they can. Did loads of testing and gameplay yesterday and my stock (EDIT HERE: sorry stock is wrong word meant reference, obviously OC'd the core to get to 2100 Mhz) single card 1080 runs at 2100 Mhz and 2000 in SLI for daily use and been doing so this morning for a few hours on blood and wine.

Do I think the Aftermarket coolers will be better for running quieter, sure, but ramp up the fan and live with some noise and the FE cards seem to go as far as the reviews I have seen for the Strix and MSI cards.

FYI, my case sucks for airflow but its doing fine in it

Marine-RX179 · 3 Jun 2016 at 13:02

triss said:
If radox is managing 2000 Mhz for hours with a 65% fan profile His card might well hold 2150 at 100% (assuming his card gets to it). Until we get a larger sample size and user bases its not certain one way or the other

Didn't you not catch what I said about when used in real-world situation?

In real-world gaming, nobody would be running the card in open-air, nor would they put up with the noise of 100% fanspeed (even headphone users would not risk running fan at 100% speed at all time as it will probably wear the fan bearing much quicker and shorten the life of the fan proportionally)...hence why I pointed to 3rd party card with good cooler (i.e. Gigabyte Windforce etc), as they are likely maintain those speed without having to run the fan at speed as loud as a hairdryer.