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9900k / 9700k or something else

Hmm, good info. It will be very interesting to see what the new Ryzen CPU's actually do. I'd probably even consider getting a pre-built system so I can run the tests myself, but that will be in a few months time when drivers, firmware all settle down a bit. ;)

TBF,best to wait a few months and see how things settle down. Personally I think you probably have enough computing resources to do stuff ATM,and we are yet to see how Intel responds to all this.
 
Well I think ive decided on the 3700x on a Asus Strix X470-F mobo with 32gb 3200mhz ram what you think guys?

Me thinks the Asrock X470 Taichi for £199.99 is a much better buy. But, there are X570 boards in that price range. Wait for others' opinion. BTW, I own an Asus Prime X470 Pro (similar to the Strix) that I love.

I read, though, Asrock is putting out better BIOS support this time around.
 
Well I think ive decided on the 3700x on a Asus Strix X470-F mobo with 32gb 3200mhz ram what you think guys?

That looks like what I will be getting too in a couple of months time. The 3700X is probably best bang for buck cpu out there. Once the bioses are bug free and chipset drivers/windows scheduling is sorted then I think the Ryzen will be about the same performance as the 9900K@5GHz.
 
Yeah liking the look of it I will be getting it pre built as can not be bothered with the hassle of a build this time lol. I should be getting this from OCUk fingers crossed i like the price they quote
 
See thats the thing...If you game at 1080p then your argument stands up....But 1440p and beyond its not that clear cut...

Its getting boring reading intel are still better at games when in fact its only 1080p now....and even the 9900k compared to the 3700x in counter strike at 1080p....is no longer a point of argument

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factor in cost and productivity and the Ryzen 3000 destroys the 9 series for less money....

THIS IS FACT
Intel are better at games FACT.
 
Intel are still ahead for gaming, but the margin has closed considerably. If you only game then Intel is the choice.
However, if you do any productivity stuff, then Ryzen 3 is the better overall choice. In which case, only choose Intel if you specifically need to for compatibility reasons.

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That represents batch exporting, which is multithreaded process and something I never do. A better indicator is the Photoshop graph in the Gamers Nexus Ryzen 3900X review.

You really are not reading this right are you?? Its nothing to do with more cores - the 8C Ryzen 7 3700X is significantly faster than the 8C Ryzen 7 2700X and Core i9 9900K. Its beating 12C and 16C CPUs.

A 12 core Ryzen 9 3900X is faster than an 18 core Core i9 9980XE.

The performance is obviously not just down to more cores,as its more cores which is not at play here,its cache,etc.

Edit!!

It can't be cache either as the Core i9 9980XE has a ton of it too.
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I looked at the GN review,too which matches the other review I saw with Adobe PS by the same amount with an overclocked Intel CPU which was around 10% or thereabouts.

Overclocked to its literal end,there is barely a 9% difference in Adobe CC,between a 5.2GHZ Core i9 9900K and a stock clocked Ryzen 9 3900X in a relatively lightly threaded photo task.

The issue is this is not just a simplistic measure of single core performance.

Look at the 5.1GHZ Core i5 9600K - it is barely matching a Ryzen 9 3900X which does not even turbo to 4.6GHZ consistently. The Stilt at best managed 4.575GHZ with a BIOS released today and he works with Asus. Most reviews had it hit a 4.4GHZ wall.

A stock Core i7 9700K is actually behind a stock Ryzen 9 3900X.

Looking at the Ryzen 5 3600 numbers,its even more amazing. A stock Ryzen 5 3600 is beaten by around 10% by a Core i5 9600K overclocked to 5.1GHZ or thereabouts. At stock the Ryzen 5 3600 is faster and its sub 4.3GHZ IIRC.

This is more than what the Anandtech IPC measurements are showing.

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Zen+ was roughly approximate to Broadwell level IPC,with SMT which appeared to scale better than Intel. Zen 2 is slightly better than Intel but its under 5% looking above. It can't explain some of these performance figures.
 
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