A blessing?

[4K8KW10]

I have no brand loyalty. I've purchased ATI GPUs in the past. And Cirrus Logic and the rest. If AMD produce a worthwhile upgrade from my 2080 Ti at a reasonable price then I'll be interested.

Would you accept RTX 3080 / RTX 3090 type of performance upgrade?
It depends but if it's not your only hobby and if it's not critical for you to get every other percentage performance improvement, the best for you would be to consider upgrade in early 2022 as the earliest.

 

[gpuerrilla]

I'm sorry to say that even if AMD produced a better gpu than Nvidia at a lower price i'd still be inclined to buy Nvidia simply because of the regular driver problems with AMD.

I'm sorry to say that even if AMD produced a better gpu than Nvidia at a lower price i'd still be inclined to buy Nvidia simply because of the richer feature set.

Also this

I'm sorry to say that even if AMD produced a better gpu than Nvidia at a lower price i'd still be inclined to buy Nvidia simply because of RTX and ray tracing.

And this. Take your pick.

Basically, I buy nvidia, end of.

 

[Devrij]

I couldn't care less which brand of card I buy. I just want the best bang for buck with enough of an improvement over my existing card. I'll admit that if it's close then I'd go green for my gsync monitor, but any notable improvement or cost reduction would make me buy AMD just as I have done for the majority of my cards before my 980ti

 

[4K8KW10]

AMD's graphics cards are currently in their Bulldozer period - not only the best that AMD has is only 45% of the top Nvidia performance, but also AMD doesn't support the latest features - DX12 Ultimate and the associated with it goodies.

I find it bizarre that they began to speak about next-gen consoles as early as H1 2020 but to this day there is no information about the desktop/mobile graphics offerings.

On the site, you can find only a bizarre RX 5300 which is nothing but lowest-end.

 

[Quartz]

Would you accept RTX 3080 / RTX 3090 type of performance upgrade?

A 3080 is on the cusp of being a worthwhile upgrade. So I'm not too fazed by the current availability issues. A performance gain to 3090 levels for a 3080 price would be very tempting.

If my GPU went pop I'd be looking for a 3080 or equivalent.

It depends but if it's not your only hobby and if it's not critical for you to get every other percentage performance improvement, the best for you would be to consider upgrade in early 2022 as the earliest.

My other hobbies are periodically expensive: I'm hopefully off to South America to see the next total solar eclipse, but that's the last for 4 years. And if I want to play in a croquet competition I have to travel so far that booking a hotel is necessary. And going to events in SE England meeting with a group of long-standing friends is expensive if I don't want to drive.

I do play at 4K so GPU performance matters a lot. But I can wait.

 

[UnderToker]

what

You have to wonder at the mentality here ?

 

[m4rmite]

I have no brand loyalty. I've purchased ATI GPUs in the past. And Cirrus Logic and the rest. If AMD produce a worthwhile upgrade from my 2080 Ti at a reasonable price then I'll be interested.

Cirrus Logic... i even upgraded my 1mb version to 2mb for about 5 quid with a memory chip.
Why can't they do that nowadays and people can have what they want - vram wise.

 

[Firegod]

Unless AMD new GPU's have G-sync they will nothing for me...
(and there no way i can see Nvidia letting AMD support G-Sync)

As am not going be replacing my G-sync monitor anytime soon

Same, unless they support g sync then i don't care.

So Nvidia have locked you and other people in, as G-Sync monitors require a proprietary Nvidia G-Sync scaler module in order to function. AMD users Freesync which is part of the DisplayPort standard (VESA consortium). Basically you've been sucked in by Nvidia to their ecosystem now as it is "one more thing to have to replace if you wanted to switch" so people won't bother. Kind of reminds me of Apple. AMD feels more like Android - adopting industry open standards. USB-C instead of Lightning and all that jazz.

It's not down to AMD to support G-Sync - unfortunately this is your problem to deal with.

 

[chaparral]

So Nvidia have locked you and other people in, as G-Sync monitors require a proprietary Nvidia G-Sync scaler module in order to function. AMD users Freesync which is part of the DisplayPort standard (VESA consortium). Basically you've been sucked in by Nvidia to their ecosystem now as it is "one more thing to have to replace if you wanted to switch" so people won't bother. Kind of reminds me of Apple. AMD feels more like Android - adopting industry open standards. USB-C instead of Lightning and all that jazz.

It's not down to AMD to support G-Sync - unfortunately this is your problem to deal with.

I have no regrets at all as G-Sync monitors was and still are better then most free-sync monitors

 

[Efour]

Cool story, i honestly dont care. Its not a problem...i think you have totally misinterpreted the "problem"

If AMD or Intel make a graphics card that's actually good in the next 4 years then ill be
1) surprised
2) buy it

 

[Deleted member 77746]

Cool story, i honestly dont care. Its not a problem...i think you have totally misinterpreted the "problem"

OP has been following the GPU market closely, very close in fact.

 

[Kirby Wurm]

Unless AMD new GPU's have G-sync they will nothing for me...
(and there no way i can see Nvidia letting AMD support G-Sync)

As am not going be replacing my G-sync monitor anytime soon

I'm also on G-sync but if the price is right I'm not beyond selling my monitor and going AMD. As I bought the monitor for a great price (b-grade) I wouldn't lose much money (and have had nearly 5 years of use out of it) and could get a similar spec Freesync model without much additional outlay. But then I was planning to skip this generation of cards and thus far am holding firm to that.

 

[Efour]

i have 2x 1440p monitors Acer predator 27" ips things that i bought with a 1070, i dont even know how long ago. 4 years? 2 years ago i got a 2080 at release because stock of 1080Ti was non existent in sweden. 2080 was on par and new. Its been one of the most underwhelming upgrades but meh, i like PCs thats what most of us do.

if the time comes that ill want 4k monitors, which i honestly cannot see because i barely game these days, i'm getting old and have a life now, sadly. Ill swap to whatever is the best 4k monitor in the future with gsync freesync Intelsync BSsync.

I must confess i have woken up in a cold sweat so many times knowing that i have been tricked by Nvidia into buying these juicy monitors 4 years ago. Chrome and youtube has never looked so good.

 

[gpuerrilla]

2080 was on par and new. Its been one of the most underwhelming upgrades but meh, i like PCs thats what most of us do.
.. i barely game these days, i'm getting old and have a life now, sadly. Ill swap to whatever is the best 4k monitor in the future with gsync freesync Intelsync BSsync.

I must confess i have woken up in a cold sweat so many times knowing that i have been tricked by Nvidia into buying these juicy monitors 4 years ago. Chrome and youtube has never looked so good.

I chortled at your story, very apt I think for many of us that have moved on from bedroom gaming with lots of spending money as life progressed many other priorities Im afraid!

 

[Tiny_D]

Some things are just less likely to happen I'm afraid . Nvidia have not been asleep like intel and push their tech forward for non-gaming uses.
What AMD will probably do is to play at their GPU strengths. These GPU's are not going to be easy to compare like-for-like as in the past (RT, DLSS...) so if AMD can be outstanding in some areas that'll be great. The chances of AMD leapfrogging NV consider the entire package and feature set is unlikely. Tickling the fancies of a lot of AMD customers tho, for sure.

G-sync vs freesync seem little talked about atm. I was thinking "oh, well, I can see what AMD bring out" only then to realise any GPU I buy needs to be compatible with g-sync. So, buying an AMD GPU anytime soon for me is a no-go.

Agree totally, having owned both AMD and Nvidia over the last... (lets not openly discuss the time its...too many years ), I genuinely always found the Nvidia products of higher physical quality, and in fact until they literally both went pop in the same week (After YEARS of abuse) 2 x 780Ti's I bought on release day are my fondest GPU memories.

However, as much as I like Nvidia's products I will never be that zealot Green slave that I see many getting behind on the internet because Nvidia are as shady, and recently outright lied and full of it in general with pretty power point shows and slides with well worded marketing and this isn't exclusive to Ampere's launch.

Nvidia were smart years ago, they said to the world "Well you can own a Nissan and it's as fast as our product but wouldn't you rather pay more and own a Ferrari, same speed but you know it's a Ferrari?"
And this is the mindset now, even if the AMD card is as fast or even slightly faster than a 3080, people wont purchase it unless it's 100-150 cheaper than the Nvidia card it outperforms, I mean think about it? Crazy right?

And to people who bought G-sync.... Well that again was you just buying into Nvidia's eco system, you are the sort of person that thinks Steve Jobs brought innovation and progressed the rate of technological advancement rather that stifle it and show the world we now have that slight iteration for profit > Innovation. The days of man just being able to push better technological advancements are long gone thanks to people like Steve Jobs, as without the billions now required you got no bueno! And The only place to get that now is our corporate overlords who's only interest is bottom line, and Nvidia is the prime example of this eco system and people not only want to lap this closed loop up they viciously protect it, the parallels to a cult are uncanny! Again this is just years of Nvidia's genius marketing.

I was smart with my monitor upgrade I bought a Free Syn with G-Sync compatible, you would have to be pretty daft not to in this age! Nvidia caved and now offers this support because at some point there was going to be a Judge in a court someplace that said "This is anti competition", you think Nvidia offers G-sync compatibility out of the goodness of its own heart? (See corporate overlords rules above).

My point is to this long rant, the amount of miss information and bull$h1t on these forums is quite entertaining to read for sure.
But anyone who is only AMD or Nvidia is living in crazy town, AMD or Nvidia dont care about you they care about your wallet and that's how we should all be approaching these purchases in return, what's best for the money? Take your heart out of it because the Ferrari this time is only a badge at this point a bit like their F1 team currently, all the money all the prestige but neither of those things get you a win, in fact it was only clever marketing that got them at the front due to cheating engine specs until they got called out and the performance just isn't there now.... I want to draw a parallel here but i'm sure you can do that for me!

 

[Chrisc]

Can you elaborate on that? Our own community seems to be having a good experience...

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/amd-owners-how-is-your-experience.1889985

I think the driver issue was blown way out of proportion, ive had two 5700xt's no issues apart from the odd black screen which was rectified with a better DP cable. Steve at hardware unboxed had 3 running on separate rigs and encountered zero issues.

 

[beany_bot]

I'm sorry to say that even if AMD produced a better gpu than Nvidia at a lower price i'd still be inclined to buy Nvidia simply because of the regular driver problems with AMD.

Lol, maybe if this was 2002 you might have a point. AMD drivers have been every bit equal to Nvidia for over 10 years now.

 

[signal11th]

outside the OP's house right now.

 

[PrincessFrosty]

Brand loyalty isn't always blind though. Many of us have bought cards from both camps over the years, I personally have a GPU history going back to pre-Nvidia with 3DFX GPUS and I've owned a GPU from almost every major technology iteration and I've owned both Nvidia and AMD/ATI in both single and multi-GPU setups. My experience with Nvidia is general has just been slightly better and smoother, that's not to say perfect, or to say that AMD is bad. But if there's 2 GPUs of equivalent speed/features the toss up for me would probably come down to which business I think in general has given me the best experience as past behaviour is usually best to predict future behaviour.