Possible stupid question.........do you not have a front number plate?
I don't bother running one.
A return to form: Say hello to Banana MK2, the Italian Prancing Horse (Ferrari 458 Italia)
I don't bother running one.
Around £850 with ManningUK, I went with them due to recommendations which is now paying dividends as many owners have had to pay for their own windscreen replacements due to small print get out clauses, this also includes track cover but if I crash on track the excess is 15% of cars value to get it repaired.
Ah right, was just curious if there was some exemption or something.
I am just naughty, simple fact is there is no location for a plate so it looks ugly, there is one on the back and so far no police has taken offence, I am sure at somepoint I will get a slapped hand and a £100 fine, but until then I will take my chances.
People who can afford cars like yours can afford the £100 fine in the unlikely event it ever happens. Thats the view taken by my old boss with his Aventador. He did get a S59 once though for overtaking a local councillor in her fiat 500 and I quote "with excessive speed and unnecessary revving which caused Councillors XXXXX car to shake and scared her"
In all fairness an AV at idle would make a Fiat 500 fall apart, so it was probably harsh as would not at all be surprised if said councillor was probably driving quite under speed limit and the AV probably cruised by but the old dear get rather alarmed and frightened.
She was clearly not that shook up though if she managed to get the plate and report it, so screams of jealousy to me or just someone who associates noise with speed. That is the one advantage of EV's you can literally drive everywhere like a total idiot, but no one notices lol.
To be fair to her, he over took 7 other cars in one manoeuvre before he got to the front where she was so he would be going at some speed/revs by then!
And the number plate is only 2 letters of his initials and 2 numbers so pretty easy to remember (once its overtaken you as doesnt have one on the front)
Plus its a small village and everybody knows who owns the Orange AV.
Well more fool him, I make of point of when I am close to home to drive very sensible, don't want the locals out with pitch forks at night hunting me down.
Another track day / race weekend invite from Ferrari, Oulton Park this time.
Grabbed a few photos:
Yet again fantastic hospitality by Ferrari.
Then shot of to Lotus to drive an Evora 410 which I posted about in the Emira thread.
Grabbed a few photos:
Yet again fantastic hospitality by Ferrari.
Then shot of to Lotus to drive an Evora 410 which I posted about in the Emira thread.
Great review:
This is why the 458 is such a truly spectacular car, its not the fastest, in fact not even close to new supercars but it absolutely knocks spots of most other cars for fun and feel.
Can't see me letting mine go, it is just too damn good!
This is why the 458 is such a truly spectacular car, its not the fastest, in fact not even close to new supercars but it absolutely knocks spots of most other cars for fun and feel.
Can't see me letting mine go, it is just too damn good!
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that makes me want to sell the house and live in a car .. only way i could do it
Don't do it, as good as a 458 is, it is impossible to sleep in.
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So the car has now been in my possession for around three years, I paid 152k with the car on 12k miles, it is now around 24,000 miles with a retail value of around 155-160k so held its value well and unfortunately its 7yr service pack which all Ferrari's now come with has expired. As it is due it next service between now and April I emailed a few dealerships and couple Specialist for quotes, my supplying dealer was the cheapest who basically quoted for a basic service:
Yes it is expensive for essentially an oil change and some filters plus a health check. But a local specialist came back at £840 and a distant one at £400, it can also pay to keep these cars official because potential buyers can be put off by cars not serviced in the dealer network and as both Stratstone and Dick Lovett both have superb service departments with well trained technicians who know their stuff you do know your car is in safe hands.
I got some additional cost for items my car does not need as they have been done on previous services at my request:
Brake fluid change: £200
Aux belt changed: £150
Gearbox oil change: Not quoted but believe it is around £500 (expensive oil), dealer recommends leaving as the service interval for the gearbox is 60,000 miles.
Spark plugs: £600 - I had these done two years ago as preventative maintenance which means they are not required now, but they are normally done between the 8th - 10th service.
1yr warranty extension: £2000 on the basis it is done whilst been serviced otherwise £2880.
In short a full major service including all the above will set you back around £2000-2500 at a main dealer.
Shall be getting the car booked in around April for the basic £931 service.
Thought I'd share this as generally Ferrari are pretty fair on servicing cost compared to some of the other supercar brands and generally are a lot keener to service older models keeping them fresh, I think once a Ferrari is past a certain age Ferrari will then start contributing a certain percentage towards maintenance cost and breakdown recovery is free for the lifetime of the car even if you don't have the car under warranty, just owning a Ferrari means free break down recovery, I think. The reasoning behind it is Ferrari don't want broken down cars on the road, hence the free recovery.
Three years in, do I still love it? HELL YES! What a car!
Photo from a trip down south a few months ago snapped by some bikers.
Such an event to drive, the kind of car the moment you sit in, you smile, you fire it up and you laugh and the driving experience is just sensational, far more involving and fun at all speeds, greatly helped by the really short ratio gearing.
So the car has now been in my possession for around three years, I paid 152k with the car on 12k miles, it is now around 24,000 miles with a retail value of around 155-160k so held its value well and unfortunately its 7yr service pack which all Ferrari's now come with has expired. As it is due it next service between now and April I emailed a few dealerships and couple Specialist for quotes, my supplying dealer was the cheapest who basically quoted for a basic service:
Yes it is expensive for essentially an oil change and some filters plus a health check. But a local specialist came back at £840 and a distant one at £400, it can also pay to keep these cars official because potential buyers can be put off by cars not serviced in the dealer network and as both Stratstone and Dick Lovett both have superb service departments with well trained technicians who know their stuff you do know your car is in safe hands.
I got some additional cost for items my car does not need as they have been done on previous services at my request:
Brake fluid change: £200
Aux belt changed: £150
Gearbox oil change: Not quoted but believe it is around £500 (expensive oil), dealer recommends leaving as the service interval for the gearbox is 60,000 miles.
Spark plugs: £600 - I had these done two years ago as preventative maintenance which means they are not required now, but they are normally done between the 8th - 10th service.
1yr warranty extension: £2000 on the basis it is done whilst been serviced otherwise £2880.
In short a full major service including all the above will set you back around £2000-2500 at a main dealer.
Shall be getting the car booked in around April for the basic £931 service.
Thought I'd share this as generally Ferrari are pretty fair on servicing cost compared to some of the other supercar brands and generally are a lot keener to service older models keeping them fresh, I think once a Ferrari is past a certain age Ferrari will then start contributing a certain percentage towards maintenance cost and breakdown recovery is free for the lifetime of the car even if you don't have the car under warranty, just owning a Ferrari means free break down recovery, I think. The reasoning behind it is Ferrari don't want broken down cars on the road, hence the free recovery.
Three years in, do I still love it? HELL YES! What a car!
Photo from a trip down south a few months ago snapped by some bikers.
Such an event to drive, the kind of car the moment you sit in, you smile, you fire it up and you laugh and the driving experience is just sensational, far more involving and fun at all speeds, greatly helped by the really short ratio gearing.
458 and 812 are pinnacle for me of Ferrari, I could buy a Pista but it less fun of a road car compared to the 458 and missed Speciale opportunity now as at 350k be afraid to use it so what is the point. 458 has the engine and the go kart handling feel to it so it’s a win win.
Agreed the 997.2 GT3 RS are the pinnacle of GT3’s but are now big money and again paying 200k for one means you won’t drive it, 991’s are better looking though and a 991.2 GT3 manual still a solid drive and can be had for 140k and is maybe what I plan on getting to put alongside the 458 if my Lotus affair is short lived but so far I love the little Exige.
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Totally agreed there are faster cars available but faster does not mean better or more fun particular at road speeds. The 458 is perfect blend of remaining fun at legal speeds on the public road but whilst still been bloody damn quick. Most the faster and newer stuff is unfortunately quite boring at legal speeds and with the camera nation we live in the opportunities to go mental fast on the road are not really possible any more.
458 is a timeless looking design and it sounds naughty too.
Lamborghini get away with it been an established brand with strong history, but I think it is really hurting the Mclaren used market as people know how good they are but are either put off because aside from all the different models they are all pretty similar cars, same carbon tub, same engine etc. But the servicing and questionable aftercare puts a lot of people off who actually really would like to buy one.
Considering you can buy a 650S for 90k, is one hell of a car for the money, but they are so cheap because even at such prices people are not falling over themselves to buy them.
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Had the Ferrari for over three years now, I've stopped extending the warranty, rather keep the £2500-3000 in my pocket especially as it only covers the stuff which tends not to fail.
Car is booked in for a service along with new drive belt and brake fluid change end of month at a cost of £1250 as this is my first paid for service as the car is now out of its seven year free service programme. So the service cost is not so bad really, that is at a main dealer too.
Also just grabbed a set of carbon door sills for the car at half price from main dealer, £730 compared to £1599 usual price so thought I'd give it a treat. Also grabbed a full steel conversion for the car, it is a gamble but if it improves the braking performance as I hope it will then the car will be more enjoyable on track, if not then my next option is a set of Surface Transforms.
In my ownership so far the car has pretty much been faultless and totally trouble free, in the last three years it has cost me £2800 for years warranty, something I am not continuing, £700 for some new exhaust brackets, £1000 for a set of Michelin PS4S which are now nearly worn on the rear but a nice forum member and other 458 owner essentially gave me his set of rear PS4S for free as I was struggling to source any new. In short warranty cost aside it has cost less than £1000 a year in servicing and consumables, just add fuel, pay tax and insurance, most of all enjoy. The car has not really depreciated, if it was sat on the same miles as the day I got it then it would now be worth around £20,000 more than I paid, but as I've driven it the value is holding around the 150k mark, which is what I paid. No plans on selling!
Car is now sitting on 25,200 miles, it gets driven!
Great time at Supercar Fest, some videos and photos people snapped on t he day of the car:
There is nothing I really want to change it too, would not mind a Speciale but it is not twice the car and a Speciale would also mean no more long distance road trips due to the much smaller boot and their mileage sensitivity, I can essentially just keep driving this and not really lose much if any money.
Had the Ferrari for over three years now, I've stopped extending the warranty, rather keep the £2500-3000 in my pocket especially as it only covers the stuff which tends not to fail.
Car is booked in for a service along with new drive belt and brake fluid change end of month at a cost of £1250 as this is my first paid for service as the car is now out of its seven year free service programme. So the service cost is not so bad really, that is at a main dealer too.
Also just grabbed a set of carbon door sills for the car at half price from main dealer, £730 compared to £1599 usual price so thought I'd give it a treat. Also grabbed a full steel conversion for the car, it is a gamble but if it improves the braking performance as I hope it will then the car will be more enjoyable on track, if not then my next option is a set of Surface Transforms.
In my ownership so far the car has pretty much been faultless and totally trouble free, in the last three years it has cost me £2800 for years warranty, something I am not continuing, £700 for some new exhaust brackets, £1000 for a set of Michelin PS4S which are now nearly worn on the rear but a nice forum member and other 458 owner essentially gave me his set of rear PS4S for free as I was struggling to source any new. In short warranty cost aside it has cost less than £1000 a year in servicing and consumables, just add fuel, pay tax and insurance, most of all enjoy. The car has not really depreciated, if it was sat on the same miles as the day I got it then it would now be worth around £20,000 more than I paid, but as I've driven it the value is holding around the 150k mark, which is what I paid. No plans on selling!
Car is now sitting on 25,200 miles, it gets driven!
Great time at Supercar Fest, some videos and photos people snapped on t he day of the car:
There is nothing I really want to change it too, would not mind a Speciale but it is not twice the car and a Speciale would also mean no more long distance road trips due to the much smaller boot and their mileage sensitivity, I can essentially just keep driving this and not really lose much if any money.
So I decided to compliment the carbon interior with some official carbon kick plates which cost an eye watering £1599 for the pair but was able to talk a Ferrari dealer down to £730 for a brand new set:
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After:
Really happy with them.
Before:
After:
Really happy with them.
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Dropped the car of for its annual service today and brake fluid cap resevoir recall:
Service all OK and a clean health check.
The keen eyed will also spot the car is now on the steel disc.
I fitted these at the weekend, was an absolute doddle fitting brakes on this car, clearly made for very easy pad and disc change overs, no doubt for when they used to race them.
The steels are an absolute transformation in performance and feel, a lot more initial bite but at the same time a more progressive and feelsome pedal. Not sure on all out braking ability yet as I am still gently bedding them in so far, so just a few stops from 60 down to 30 and 70 down to 30 but it is easy to ABS threshold brake now, so at town speeds and legal country road speeds the steels perform and feel better. The dust however is not as welcome.
Also the ceramic disc weigh 6kg each all round, the front steels were 13kg and rear steels 12kg. So quite a bit of unsprung added, hard to say if I can notice maybe the ride is marginally firmer. Ferrari check my work / install on the brakes and said they could find no issues with the install, job well done.
Service was £1250 which also included brake fluid and a new drive belt. I think this is the first service I have paid for since owning the car.
Also spotted a couple of 296 lurking and wow what a beautiful looking car in the flesh it is, photos don't do it justice.
Dropped the car of for its annual service today and brake fluid cap resevoir recall:
Service all OK and a clean health check.
The keen eyed will also spot the car is now on the steel disc.
I fitted these at the weekend, was an absolute doddle fitting brakes on this car, clearly made for very easy pad and disc change overs, no doubt for when they used to race them.
The steels are an absolute transformation in performance and feel, a lot more initial bite but at the same time a more progressive and feelsome pedal. Not sure on all out braking ability yet as I am still gently bedding them in so far, so just a few stops from 60 down to 30 and 70 down to 30 but it is easy to ABS threshold brake now, so at town speeds and legal country road speeds the steels perform and feel better. The dust however is not as welcome.
Also the ceramic disc weigh 6kg each all round, the front steels were 13kg and rear steels 12kg. So quite a bit of unsprung added, hard to say if I can notice maybe the ride is marginally firmer. Ferrari check my work / install on the brakes and said they could find no issues with the install, job well done.
Service was £1250 which also included brake fluid and a new drive belt. I think this is the first service I have paid for since owning the car.
Also spotted a couple of 296 lurking and wow what a beautiful looking car in the flesh it is, photos don't do it justice.
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Well its coming upto four years ownership now and nearly 15,000 miles, I am not adding as much mileage these days due to it not been used as a daily but to sum up ownership cost in 4 years:
Purchase price: £152,000 (2014 car with 12,000 miles).
Current value: £160,000 (2014 car with 12,000 miles today is around £180-190,000 with similar spec)
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The above is same dealership selling a car in the closest spec I can find to mine which is lesser spec by around £30,000 in options so its fair to say they'd list it for more, the last triple yellow they had several months ago sold within a couple of weeks as they are now highly sought after, due to rarity of the triple yellow option and most owners hanging onto them, same as I plan to do so.
Servicing cost: £2500 including upcoming service the rest were free as it was within its 7yr service pack been a 2014 car.
Repair cost: exhaust brackets £700
Corrosion issue: £1600
Warranty extension: £2500 (no longer bothering)
Tyres: PS4S all round: £1200
Another set of PS4S rears: £50 (Ferrari friend and yet to be fitted)
Steel brake conversion: £1500
New rear ceramics: £1600 (still in boxes as running steels)
Alignment: £120
Then fuel, insurance, tracker, road tax etc.
Running cost so far have been not so bad, I am sure as the car gets older and miles increase the running cost will no doubt do so as well, but it is a long term keeper.
Still totally love the car, it is nothing short of amazing and proven by the market now that 458 values are going up so much to the point now 488's of similar mileage now cost less.
Some pictures from 2022:
Shall see if we can get it beyond 30,000 miles this year.
Well its coming upto four years ownership now and nearly 15,000 miles, I am not adding as much mileage these days due to it not been used as a daily but to sum up ownership cost in 4 years:
Purchase price: £152,000 (2014 car with 12,000 miles).
Current value: £160,000 (2014 car with 12,000 miles today is around £180-190,000 with similar spec)
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The above is same dealership selling a car in the closest spec I can find to mine which is lesser spec by around £30,000 in options so its fair to say they'd list it for more, the last triple yellow they had several months ago sold within a couple of weeks as they are now highly sought after, due to rarity of the triple yellow option and most owners hanging onto them, same as I plan to do so.
Servicing cost: £2500 including upcoming service the rest were free as it was within its 7yr service pack been a 2014 car.
Repair cost: exhaust brackets £700
Corrosion issue: £1600
Warranty extension: £2500 (no longer bothering)
Tyres: PS4S all round: £1200
Another set of PS4S rears: £50 (Ferrari friend and yet to be fitted)
Steel brake conversion: £1500
New rear ceramics: £1600 (still in boxes as running steels)
Alignment: £120
Then fuel, insurance, tracker, road tax etc.
Running cost so far have been not so bad, I am sure as the car gets older and miles increase the running cost will no doubt do so as well, but it is a long term keeper.
Still totally love the car, it is nothing short of amazing and proven by the market now that 458 values are going up so much to the point now 488's of similar mileage now cost less.
Some pictures from 2022:
Shall see if we can get it beyond 30,000 miles this year.
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Drove car to work yesterday, came home parked up, then reversed it up driveway.
This morning spotted what looks like an oil slick on front drive.
Instantly heart in my mouth, walks to Ferrari looks underneath, oil, pulled the diffuser and could see oil leaking from a hole on out gearbox casing.
Spoken to two main dealers and a specialist, all confirm the same an internal seal has failed in the gearbox, once the specialist got my photos he confirmed exactly what it is:
"Definetely primary shaft seal has failed, seal comes with new casing and a new speed sensor which can also fail, he recommends putting new pressure sensors in as well whilst the car is dismantled. He is coming back to me with a bill."
Ferrari mentioned £3300 plus VAT for the shaft seal as it comes as a kit plus some other bits and roughly 20 hours labour. They are going to do some investigating and come back to me Monday, but probably looking at around a £10,000 bill, the saving grace is the warranty would not have covered this as its an oil leak.
Drove car to work yesterday, came home parked up, then reversed it up driveway.
This morning spotted what looks like an oil slick on front drive.
Instantly heart in my mouth, walks to Ferrari looks underneath, oil, pulled the diffuser and could see oil leaking from a hole on out gearbox casing.
Spoken to two main dealers and a specialist, all confirm the same an internal seal has failed in the gearbox, once the specialist got my photos he confirmed exactly what it is:
"Definetely primary shaft seal has failed, seal comes with new casing and a new speed sensor which can also fail, he recommends putting new pressure sensors in as well whilst the car is dismantled. He is coming back to me with a bill."
Ferrari mentioned £3300 plus VAT for the shaft seal as it comes as a kit plus some other bits and roughly 20 hours labour. They are going to do some investigating and come back to me Monday, but probably looking at around a £10,000 bill, the saving grace is the warranty would not have covered this as its an oil leak.
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See it across all brands, on car X gearbox casing is £300 yet on car Y gearbox casing is £3000. I get the whole it does cost more as they make less of them, so have to get cost back on mould, template etc but it is fair to say the profit margins are sky high, just how the world works.
I don't even need the casing, it is the seal that has failed, so need to investigate if I can just get the seal. Labour is the killer with 20hrs and around £200 per hour.
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