This they were all Rollers, not sure on type but they were great looking cars and absolutely massive too. Check the stock on the website I posted link further up and that will answer questions on model.
A return to form: Say hello to Banana MK2, the Italian Prancing Horse (Ferrari 458 Italia)
This they were all Rollers, not sure on type but they were great looking cars and absolutely massive too. Check the stock on the website I posted link further up and that will answer questions on model.
LHD are a nightmare in this country in the very roads where you'd want to be doing overtaking, like dLockers says, are country roads.
The only reason for a LHD would be for trips in and around Europe where it makes sense. Also think about the trouble trying to resell it in this country.
The only reason for a LHD would be for trips in and around Europe where it makes sense. Also think about the trouble trying to resell it in this country.
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The speciale is far far too showy for my tastes. I appreciate that it’s got some function to account for the form, but as a road car it seems silly. I much prefer the cleaner lines of the 458, and your yellow car is a lovey example. I have the same feelings about the GT3 RS vs the GT3 and would prefer a touring if it were my money.
Can’t doubt that it’d be very special to drive though. If you’re going to go for it, get a RHD car in a better colour.
Can’t doubt that it’d be very special to drive though. If you’re going to go for it, get a RHD car in a better colour.
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LHD 
Wait for the right car.
That looks proper Knightsbridge spec anyway.
Wait for the right car.
That looks proper Knightsbridge spec anyway.
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i think you will regret buying a LHD one later and wished you waited for a RHD one
Yeah but in all fairness it is only one of those regrets that you get reminded of constantly, every time you go to drive it
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That Carrera GT at the cheshire oaks dealer was gone before I could get the notes out of my wallet
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not sure about the wheel colour?
I wouldn't bother with that Speciale personally, LHD and ex-Saudi just makes me think there's potentially too much you don't know about history wise. Plus the colour whilst I agree does look cool, it might be hard to get out of in the future. The type of car that could easily be sat on SOR for over a year I reckon.
On the car itself, are you sure it's different enough? What do you actually want to change the Italia for? I feel it would be the same experience turned up to 11, which might be nice but for ~70k cost to change don't you want a new / different experience? Just my thinking. That 70k could go on something track dedicated for example (GT4, early GT3, Exige Cup etc.) or you could just allow yourself to chuck even more miles on the current 458. Otherwise at 200k you're in 675LT / Perf / GT3RS territory which personally I think would all be an enjoyable change though I suppose without the badge allure. More road biased how about an F12?
On the car itself, are you sure it's different enough? What do you actually want to change the Italia for? I feel it would be the same experience turned up to 11, which might be nice but for ~70k cost to change don't you want a new / different experience? Just my thinking. That 70k could go on something track dedicated for example (GT4, early GT3, Exige Cup etc.) or you could just allow yourself to chuck even more miles on the current 458. Otherwise at 200k you're in 675LT / Perf / GT3RS territory which personally I think would all be an enjoyable change though I suppose without the badge allure. More road biased how about an F12?
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Can't see the merit in going that far tbh, 458 is already the crown jewels of the collection.
LHD is quite a difference experience, good visibility wont change the fact you are sat in the wrong place for these roads and make it even less usuable.
LHD is quite a difference experience, good visibility wont change the fact you are sat in the wrong place for these roads and make it even less usuable.
#Maybe a long wait. Of the 9 cars up for sale on autotrader, not a single one has done more than 1000 miles per annum, most substantially less. Seems like most owners of these hardly ever drive them.
Yep looking at 280-300k for a perfect spec car but they are super low miles. So only got to look at the high mileage cars which are none existent but in short would be around 200-230k depending on amount of miles, so a 50-80k loss, unless the Speciale does an F40 type appreciation and goes bonkers over next five years, that could happen considering 458 values are now already beginning to eclipse 488 values.
It was shocking to visit Ferrari at weekend and they had 4 Pista's, even more a shock that a re-sale red model was only 285k, was not long ago they were 350k so the Pista values are softening and though an awesome car I suspect I would not love it. The 458 Italia has really spoiled me, its a freaking awesome car to drive, handles like an E46 M3, sounds like an old F1 car and just feels absurdly special and even fast at legal speeds.
I think the only real alternative is a Performante, I do need to revisit I think, driving a Huracan hard on the road put me off, not because of understeer but simply because the car was numb and you had to drive at such high speeds to feel involvement and fun factor, not really practical this day and age.
Most the Special edition of Ferrari's are purchased to look at, not to drive, a real shame which does mean its difficult trying to find one, I've put my name down with a few dealers and specialist now to see if they can find me one.
You are probably correct, it was never an issue in my Mustang but I was 26 and had no fear, I've calmed down a little now so suspect LHD could be an issue, RHD is always king.
I think the above car though nice has issues, it could only really become a potential candidate if they would say take 180k, as 50k to get into a Speciale LHD or not and any colour would be a bargain, but that car aint gonna get down to 180k.
The problem is, I love the looks of many cars, looks alone a GT3 RS would probably be kind for me or maybe a 488 Pista. But in the GT3 its a gearing issue, 85mph in 2nd, 115mph in 3rd in a car you need to rev out to enjoy it, as such driving it down a b-road in a 50-80mph region means you could never leave 2nd, or be in 3rd but then not on it and this is the issue and makes sense why owners have put me off, on a race track where you can hold it out to the limiter in all the gears and hit 130-150mph lap after lap, awesome but doing that on road will not do me any favours. Though the Pista has short gearing its very much turbo charged, 3000-7500rpm range really and just not got the fizz but absolutely bonkers mentally fast so probably just end up in same situation again.
The 458 comes head and shoulder above the competition because the engine though in its power delivery and sound is very monotone, it is a power delivery and sound that is so addictive, at 2000rpm it pulls and it sounds awesome, there is no need to rev it to 9000rpm, you can go to 7 if you wish but at same time you can, but the gearing absolutely makes the car feel alive as 2nd is around 65, 3rd around 85-90, 4th is just over 100 and as so you can rev it out or you can change up and down the box. Then the chassis is just incredible just the right amount of grip and slip to make the drive engaging and fun even at legal speeds, also a lot of fun in the wet also because of how they progressively move around. It gets a lot of attention, but all positive so ok.
The Performante I feel is only contender and though it will be faster for sure, its a grip monster and I know its vastly better than a Huracan, but I still suspect its a car that needs to be pedalled very fast on a public road to feel epic, but unlike newer Ferrari stuff and other brands the Performante does have all the theatre with that engine.
Honestly it sounds like a 458 is your perfect road car already and you've just got newthingitis 
. I don't blame you I'm much the same hah. Totally with you on Porsche gearing though, exacerbated by all the fun being at the tippy top of the revs aswell.
Unless you want a different use case aswell I don't think you'll really top the 458 so maybe pick a new use case gap to fill?
. I don't blame you I'm much the same hah. Totally with you on Porsche gearing though, exacerbated by all the fun being at the tippy top of the revs aswell. Unless you want a different use case aswell I don't think you'll really top the 458 so maybe pick a new use case gap to fill?
Personally I don't find that. The gearing is not particularly long, top of 3rd is only about 85 so you do get to rev it out most of the way. My old 650S was doing nearly 80 at the top of 2nd, so very little chance of using anywhere near the full performance, even though from a handling/feel perspective McLaren wins, it was hard to use it. Maybe the 675LT is better for that.
Your 458 is a cracker, don't change for the sake of it though.
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I do love those but I think of them as a car to go along side a 458 not as a replacement because how epic they are they are more a GT than a raw sports car, but easily the best car Ferrari make right now.