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Bonkers Germans!
Awwww
A short bit of 780BHP Dolomite perversion....
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Bonkers Germans!
Awwww
No pics I'm afraid. If you thinking of doing it I could ask him to email you some info on it if he's prepared to disclose his secrets
. It also involved a very custom exhaust manifold and an electric rad fan off the top of my head. He did know of one other that hadn't used a lengthened nose I think, but I think it had a very stupid exhaust manifold on it.
. It also involved a very custom exhaust manifold and an electric rad fan off the top of my head. He did know of one other that hadn't used a lengthened nose I think, but I think it had a very stupid exhaust manifold on it.
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Lashout_UK said:
Awwww
*sobs*
heheheheh
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Aha! There is no stupid exhaust manifold on the red one (I can tell you that, for certain!) There is, however, a rather convoluted bit of pipe
One bank's manifold is flipped, to run forwards a la TVR's, with a loop bringing it back under - this allows the steering column on that side to clear, which would be a messy affair if you were to alter it.
We were going to use the radiator from a Porsche boxter, mounted in the valance, very flash, but simpler, neater plans are afoot. There's room, you just have be productive with it
One bank's manifold is flipped, to run forwards a la TVR's, with a loop bringing it back under - this allows the steering column on that side to clear, which would be a messy affair if you were to alter it.
We were going to use the radiator from a Porsche boxter, mounted in the valance, very flash, but simpler, neater plans are afoot. There's room, you just have be productive with it
Something to consider is moving the radiator in front of the mounting crossmembers. I know my brother had to do that when he stuffed a German 4 bolt main 302CID V-8 into a 1974 Ford Pinto. He ended up using a rad from a 240Z as it had the cooling capacity he needed, but was short enough in hieght to fit. Mind you, it also went behind both headlights!! 
Not sure if a Dolomite leaves you enough room between the crossmembers and the grill work. Might need to consider a custom mesh grille if it'll make room for a forward mounting rad......
Not sure if a Dolomite leaves you enough room between the crossmembers and the grill work. Might need to consider a custom mesh grille if it'll make room for a forward mounting rad......
Got boost? 
Has anyone ever fitted a Saab T16 lump in one of those? I've yet to find out if the sump pattern and crank bolt pattern is the same, but they might well be. Not all that hard to get 500+bhp out of one of those. The limiting factor in a Saab is the gearbox, what are the triumph ones like?
I know a couple of people are fitting the engines in TR7's.
Has anyone ever fitted a Saab T16 lump in one of those? I've yet to find out if the sump pattern and crank bolt pattern is the same, but they might well be. Not all that hard to get 500+bhp out of one of those. The limiting factor in a Saab is the gearbox, what are the triumph ones like?
I know a couple of people are fitting the engines in TR7's.
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nutcase - It probably won't fit, from the initial ganders we've taken as it cants the wrong way and the turbo and manifold wants to be inside the turrets. I think the 7's bay is a little more accomodating
Turbo installations are notoriously difficult on Dollies as the gap between both turrets is quite narrow.
But I'm sure you could fit one - if you moved the engine and box back maybe, or did something clever with where the turbo was don't think the gearbox would fit directly (the dolly one), I'm sure you could bodge a bellhousing mind. The 4spd OD boxes take 240lb/ft before they get squiffy, so you'd probably be find. Always tempted to try it, as Saab engines are jolly nice. 9000 turbo might go too, as it's a decendant (think it's the same engine anyway)
Mickey_D - I had been thinking similar, looking at putting a 302 or 1UZFE in one (1UZFE's bit wide though), I reckon you could get the radiator very far forwards into a Dolly's grill without loosing too much meat...give you a nice bit of breathing space. Although, to be honest, I'd rather move the engine back and rescue some handling at the same time...but a 302 will fit as standard, so no worries there.
Yea, give it three weeks or so and the TVR 4.2 will be slotted into the bay of the Dolly for it's first test fit
Turbo installations are notoriously difficult on Dollies as the gap between both turrets is quite narrow.
But I'm sure you could fit one - if you moved the engine and box back maybe, or did something clever with where the turbo was
don't think the gearbox would fit directly (the dolly one), I'm sure you could bodge a bellhousing mind. The 4spd OD boxes take 240lb/ft before they get squiffy, so you'd probably be find. Always tempted to try it, as Saab engines are jolly nice. 9000 turbo might go too, as it's a decendant (think it's the same engine anyway)Mickey_D - I had been thinking similar, looking at putting a 302 or 1UZFE in one (1UZFE's bit wide though), I reckon you could get the radiator very far forwards into a Dolly's grill without loosing too much meat...give you a nice bit of breathing space. Although, to be honest, I'd rather move the engine back and rescue some handling at the same time...but a 302 will fit as standard, so no worries there.
Yea, give it three weeks or so and the TVR 4.2 will be slotted into the bay of the Dolly for it's first test fit
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Damn it! You are getting me thinking about fancy engines again! Why must you do that?
I'm still only half way through prepping the garage. Bit of paint here bit of paint there...bit of horribly crumbly wall coming away in my hands here
I'm still only half way through prepping the garage. Bit of paint here bit of paint there...bit of horribly crumbly wall coming away in my hands here
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Aha! That's what I meant, managed to confuse myself there
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What Saab engine would you recommend from their turbo range. Is the T16 the one that was in the Saab 9000 turbo? Wasn't there a 2.3 variety at some point?
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What Saab engine would you recommend from their turbo range. Is the T16 the one that was in the Saab 9000 turbo? Wasn't there a 2.3 variety at some point?
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Well obviously the bigger the better If it'll fit. Us longitudinal FWD owners can't use the 2.3 as they get the extra capacity by increasing the stroke. Fine if you have a normal sump, but we have a gearbox in the way 
Your's should be fine as you hang the box off the flywheel? A 9000 engine might well be the one to go for as they come from the factory with a box hanging off the right bit.
The 8v turbo only came in the 99 (B engine) and 900 (B and H engine). B engine bits are rare, but they have the external wastegate for poshness.
The 2 litre 16v turbo was fitted to the c900, GM900, 9000 and in various forms to anything since. Some have balance shafts. The 2.3 was fitted to anything from the 9000 and newer design. I think. I get confused by these new fangled things
The new ones also have Direct Ignition to play with. Better for power production, but worse for wiring.
If it'll fit. Us longitudinal FWD owners can't use the 2.3 as they get the extra capacity by increasing the stroke. Fine if you have a normal sump, but we have a gearbox in the way Your's should be fine as you hang the box off the flywheel? A 9000 engine might well be the one to go for as they come from the factory with a box hanging off the right bit.The 8v turbo only came in the 99 (B engine) and 900 (B and H engine). B engine bits are rare, but they have the external wastegate for poshness.
The 2 litre 16v turbo was fitted to the c900, GM900, 9000 and in various forms to anything since. Some have balance shafts. The 2.3 was fitted to anything from the 9000 and newer design. I think. I get confused by these new fangled things
The new ones also have Direct Ignition to play with. Better for power production, but worse for wiring.
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Hmm...
I'll see if I can find one locally, and take some proper measurements of it. It's something that's certainly interesting to me as it's an alternative to the 'stick a V8' in it route, although I'd love it a turbo intercooled Saab 4'pot with a nice straight pipe exiting in front of the wheels would be quite
Plenty of power as stock, too
The engine in our 9000 was an absolute trucker, 180,000 miles, only serviced now and then, ran faultlessly apart from the cap getting damp every now and then
I'll see if I can find one locally, and take some proper measurements of it. It's something that's certainly interesting to me as it's an alternative to the 'stick a V8' in it route, although I'd love it a turbo intercooled Saab 4'pot with a nice straight pipe exiting in front of the wheels would be quite
Plenty of power as stock, too
The engine in our 9000 was an absolute trucker, 180,000 miles, only serviced now and then, ran faultlessly apart from the cap getting damp every now and then
The engines themselves are damn near indestructable. There's a 9000 up Scotland way that's IIRC 490bhp, and when he stripped the engine at 200,000 miles for a checkover (including 70,000 miles at WAY over standard power) it still had the honing marks from the factory.
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nutcase_1uk said:
Doesn't the Saab 4 pot derive from the Triumph 4 pot? I'd have thought that they would be similar in size, although the heads may make a difference, I suppose. I don't really know earlier Saab engines, only from about the B205.
Hmmm, this tells us a bit about the evolution, but not much about sizes and weights... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_B_engine. From looking at the H engine stats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_H_engine) it may be worth looking for a B201 from about '82 on as this sounds similar in basic design, but has the benefits of higher compression