Abu Dhabi Grand Prix 2012, Yas Marina - Race 18/20

[Flibster]

Technical Regs - Article 6.6.2

Competitors must ensure that a one litre sample of fuel may be taken from the car at any time during the event.

Except in cases of force majeure (accepted as such by the stewards of the meeting), if a sample of fuel is required after a practice session the car concerned must have first been driven back to the pits under its own power.

 

[Alpherah]

You have to make it back under your own power and provide a fuel sample unless there is a technical reason as to why you can't make it back.

How good that reason is is up to the FIA to decide. RBR will have to tell the FIA exactly what happened and convince them they had to stop.

If the FIA are happy then no penalty, although I would assume something serious enough for them to allow them off with out a penalty will require fixing so will mean starting from the pits.

Unless its an engine change, which is just a grid penalty? (smaller then that of the fuel penalty..)

 

[King Damager]

So, Maldonado to drive into Vettel, Alonso to climb a few points and get ahead of Seb.

kd

 

[Skeeter]

Unless its an engine change, which is just a grid penalty? (smaller then that of the fuel penalty..)

That only applies before parc ferme rules. Once qualifying has started a change means starting from the pits. There is very little they can change in parc ferme.

 

[deuse]

So, Maldonado to drive into Vettel, Alonso to climb a few points and get ahead of Seb.

kd

That will do with a Lewis win

 

[MooMoo444]

Vettel going to the back would be awesome for the race, but wouldnt affect the championship all that much, he'd still score points by the end

 

[Flibster]

Herbie Blash taking a lot of interest in Vettel's car being unloaded from the flatbed.

 

[Thomas. PLease.]

So, Maldonado to drive into Vettel, Alonso to climb a few points and get ahead of Seb.

kd

Yes please

 

[Thomas. PLease.]

Herbie Blash taking a lot of interest in Vettel's car being unloaded from the flatbed.

Swear he was drinking a can of redbull too lol

 

[413x]

My thoughts on the stopping on track

Spoiler

 

[Skeeter]

I see 3 possible outcomes.

Vettels car is broke, they need to fix it, he starts from the pits.
Vettels car isn't broke, the FIA aren't convinced by RBRs reasons, he starts from the back.
Vettels car isnt broke yet the manage to convince the FIA that they still had to stop, he starts 3rd.

The 3rd option shouldn't be able to happen so it should be one of the top 2, but then this is Red Bull...

 

[Alpherah]

That only applies before parc ferme rules. Once qualifying has started a change means starting from the pits. There is very little they can change in parc ferme.

According to Sky we're both wrong, if its an engine they can change it without penalty , apparently.

 

[Skeeter]

According to Sky we're both wrong, if its an engine they can change it without penalty , apparently.

Hmm.

It would have to be broken for the FIA to allow that surely? Otherwise everyone would be doing it?

Cue RBR staff tipping metal shards down the exhaust pipes

 

[Flibster]

Depends on what failed.

Many things are regularly changed under parc ferme regs. May well require permission from the FIA though.

 

[Skeeter]

Anything other than consumables and the front wing require FIA permission afaik.

Ted seems keen on the fuel theory.

 

[tummelv]

Hamilton grid penalty incoming

 

[Thomas. PLease.]

Hamilton grid penalty incoming

how?

 

[utajoker]

any news on vettel?

 

[Duke]

Qually times

[b]Pos  Driver                Team                 Time          Gap   [/b]
 1.  Lewis Hamilton        McLaren-Mercedes     1m40.630s
 2.  Mark Webber           Red Bull-Renault     1m40.978s  + 0.348
 3.  Sebastian Vettel      Red Bull-Renault     1m41.073s  + 0.443
 4.  Pastor Maldonado      Williams-Renault     1m41.226s  + 0.596
 5.  Kimi Raikkonen        Lotus-Renault        1m41.260s  + 0.630
 6.  Jenson Button         McLaren-Mercedes     1m41.290s  + 0.660
 7.  Fernando Alonso       Ferrari              1m41.582s  + 0.952
 8.  Nico Rosberg          Mercedes             1m41.603s  + 0.973
 9.  Felipe Massa          Ferrari              1m41.723s  + 1.093
10.  Romain Grosjean       Lotus-Renault        1m41.778s  + 1.148  
Q2 cut-off time: 1m41.907s                                   Gap **
11.  Nico Hulkenberg       Force India-Mercedes 1m42.019s  + 1.118
12.  Sergio Perez          Sauber-Ferrari       1m42.084s  + 1.183
13.  Paul di Resta         Force India-Mercedes 1m42.218s  + 1.317
14.  Michael Schumacher    Mercedes             1m42.289s  + 1.388
15.  Bruno Senna           Williams-Renault     1m42.330s  + 1.429
16.  Kamui Kobayashi       Sauber-Ferrari       1m42.606s  + 1.705
17.  Daniel Ricciardo      Toro Rosso-Ferrari   1m42.765s  + 1.864
Q1 cut-off time: 1m43.582s                                    Gap *
18.  Jean-Eric Vergne      Toro Rosso-Ferrari   1m44.058s  + 2.561
19.  Heikki Kovalainen     Caterham-Renault     1m44.956s  + 3.459
20.  Charles Pic           Marussia-Cosworth    1m45.089s  + 3.592
21.  Vitaly Petrov         Caterham-Renault     1m45.151s  + 3.654
22.  Timo Glock            Marussia-Cosworth    1m45.426s  + 3.929
23.  Pedro de la Rosa      HRT-Cosworth         1m45.766s  + 4.269
24.  Narain Karthikeyan    HRT-Cosworth         1m46.382s  + 4.885

Great lap by Pic.

 

[tummelv]

how?

Cause he's black

lol at Maldonado outqualifying Senna by 1.1 seconds