Soldato
Never understood why they haven't done this a long time ago.
Abu Dhabi Grand Prix 2013, Yas Marina - Race 17/19
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Never understood why they haven't done this a long time ago.
How long did it take to get HD?
Can't have anything new in F1. It all involves FOM spending money. Couldn't possibly do that when they're meant to be fleecing as much as possible from the sponsorship and the track owners.
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Soldato
So much for F1 being the pinnacle of.. well anything.
Man of Honour
F1 is the pinnacle of tyre saving.
Practise 2 results:
1. Vettel
2. Webber
3. Hamilton
Could this order be a glimpse of things to come in 2014?
1. RBR
2. Merc
I think so.
The only point of interest for me in this race is, will Vettel be able to match MSc's post 1950s record of 7 wins in a row. If he wins this one, he will match MSc.
1. Vettel
2. Webber
3. Hamilton
Could this order be a glimpse of things to come in 2014?
1. RBR
2. Merc
I think so.
The only point of interest for me in this race is, will Vettel be able to match MSc's post 1950s record of 7 wins in a row. If he wins this one, he will match MSc.
Soldato
If true then he has gone back to his old ways already. He is most likely drunk somewhere but I bet Ferrari is
thinking "**** we got this guy for two years" BUT HIM OUT ALREADY
Think you'll find that it's over a pay dispute. i.e. Lotus owing him ver 14m having not paid him at all this season. Similar situation to last year.
Though despite the rumours he's here anyway.
Your drawing conclusions on the whole of the 2014 season, a season that will see brand new engines and an overhaul of the regulations, based solely on the top 3 positions from a single practice session from a single race?
Wow. Do you make 5 year life plans based on how many Frosties you had for breakfast?
Wow. Do you make 5 year life plans based on how many Frosties you had for breakfast?
Yep, hes now talked to some one, on bbc f1 news.
Its all about pay, and says he's only come back today as it looks like an understanding is eminent. But if that understanding isn't forthcoming, then he's willing to miss the last two races
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/24776816
On Sky's F1 Show, Ted asked Kimi straight out if he considered not racing this weekend.
Kimi's response: "Erm, yes." Then went on to say that he'd not been paid a single euro this year.
Also had a very unhappy PR plank standing behind him, and then they went to Eric Boullier who claimed there wasn't anything wrong.
Hmmmm...
Kimi's response: "Erm, yes." Then went on to say that he'd not been paid a single euro this year.
Also had a very unhappy PR plank standing behind him, and then they went to Eric Boullier who claimed there wasn't anything wrong.
Hmmmm...
According to the BBC Lotus "argue they need to take care of their employees first because Raikkonen is already a multi-millionaire and does not need the money to live. " I wouldn't blame Raikkonen if he parked up his car and walked off after the first corner if that's the way they treat him.
Quantum were supposed to be buying up the shares that Genii wants to get rid of, but they're struggling to clear certain legal processes, according to Joe Saward. http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2013/11/01/the-future-of-lotus-f1/
Soldato
I think Kimi has been fair enough. He raced the whole of last year without seeing any money until the end of the season. Same thing this year, apart from the fact that he's leaving. Meaning Lotus are more likely to drag their heals paying him, and it might end out going to court.
I really do want to like that team, but they do make it hard sometimes.
I really do want to like that team, but they do make it hard sometimes.
makes me sad to see the team rotting away.
Kind of need maldanados money!
i think it will with maybe ferrari, i am going to assume next year will be close between merc and ferarri for secon with RBR and vettel winning again. Possibly more dominant than this year, it seems (without knowing budgets) that the rule changes may allow those with most money to get the greatest advantage. Would anyone agree the gap in finances between top and bottom is growing?
i dont expect anyone else to be fighting for a WCC podium place
In general i find there are less and less people who are watching F1 now, to the point where without this forum i would know no one
Kind of need maldanados money!
i think it will with maybe ferrari, i am going to assume next year will be close between merc and ferarri for secon with RBR and vettel winning again. Possibly more dominant than this year, it seems (without knowing budgets) that the rule changes may allow those with most money to get the greatest advantage. Would anyone agree the gap in finances between top and bottom is growing?
i dont expect anyone else to be fighting for a WCC podium place
In general i find there are less and less people who are watching F1 now, to the point where without this forum i would know no one
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Yes, but mainly because the FIA created a bottom rung that had no chance of keeping up.
The top players are spending considerably less than the majority of the field were in the early 00's. Its not about money, its about how you use it. Ferrari are a team that spent hundreds of millions on pounding round test tracks developing world beating cars. The ban on testing hit them hard, hard enough that even now they haven't caught up. Which has given the more agile teams a chance to steal the show.
It was interesting talking to Sparky at RBR the other week. Due to not having anywhere near as much manufacturing capability as Ferrari, RBR only make things when they are certain they will work (how many upgrades have RBR brought to a race that they have binned?). Ferrari on the other hand make stuff and then try it, because that's what they have always done. But that doesn't work any more as track time is so limited.
So no, I don't think we are going to see teams 'buying' championships by simply having the biggest budget. Its far more than that. Its about having the right mentality within the team and using the money you have.
I do have a concern that at no point does anyone seem to be mentioning McLaren in any discussons about who will do well next year. Have people really lost faith in them from just 1 poor season?
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What worries me is the gap between merc/rbr/ferrari and the mid field. this must be widening?
i dont like to guess on viewing figures world wide but they must be going down. (more so in our little corner of the world). Obviously this is not rbrs fault but it does seem as if even the other teams have given up on catching them
i do wonder where mclaren fall in spending power. I would guess somewhere between the top three and the rest.
is f1 getting to the point of damaging itself? i dont mean because of a few bad seasons, i mean due to the gap between top and middle?
RBR seem fairly immune to world economics. Most car manufacturers cannot justify the cost.
there are paying drivers so far up the grid (to lotus and mclaren) that you have to be both good and lucky to get there on talent alone
i dont know much about f1s proper past so im not sure how different this is
persoanally, for me, my ideal situation would be lots of car manufacturers from ferrari, to renault, to honda to mercedes etc with similar budgets with rule changes and and testing to allow innovation and cost low enough to almost make it profitable to do well
costs dont have to be high, they only are driven up as some teams can and therefore do
i dont like to guess on viewing figures world wide but they must be going down. (more so in our little corner of the world). Obviously this is not rbrs fault but it does seem as if even the other teams have given up on catching them
i do wonder where mclaren fall in spending power. I would guess somewhere between the top three and the rest.
is f1 getting to the point of damaging itself? i dont mean because of a few bad seasons, i mean due to the gap between top and middle?
RBR seem fairly immune to world economics. Most car manufacturers cannot justify the cost.
there are paying drivers so far up the grid (to lotus and mclaren) that you have to be both good and lucky to get there on talent alone
i dont know much about f1s proper past so im not sure how different this is
persoanally, for me, my ideal situation would be lots of car manufacturers from ferrari, to renault, to honda to mercedes etc with similar budgets with rule changes and and testing to allow innovation and cost low enough to almost make it profitable to do well
costs dont have to be high, they only are driven up as some teams can and therefore do
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Soldato
twas a failed sensor on Jenson's car. Tyre was fine.