Poll: Abu Dhabi Grand Prix 2021, Yas Island - Race 22
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Some classics here , clearly had it in for Ferrari that year
What's interesting about that is the 2017 crash with Danny Ric. Ricciardo says in the post-race "That's Youth" and yet Max is still pulling the same **** four years later.
Case of "old habits die hard " when it comes to Max it seems, still does the odd bit of weaving , plenty of dive bombing on the inside of cars and generally just being extremely arrogant ... His comments after the 2017 Singapore incident are disgusting and very unsportsmanlike .
Soldato
"Fix Verstappen" I love it..
Commissario
I've said it before and I'll say it again. He drives the same way that I drive when I'm playing racing games with the damage turned off. I go for everything and just don't care.Some classics here , clearly had it in for Ferrari that year
Soldato
It will be interesting to see if his wheel to wheel racing becomes more cautious, now he has the driver title to lose in '22 (presuming he doesn't lose title through a Merc appeal).
//Laughs in Red Bull echo chamber//
In all seriousness i can't see it. IF they are still battling at the front of course...
Caporegime
This is the message that is being sent that a man who runs off with ginger spice whilst his wife is 6 months prego. A child who's father smashes in people heads and beats up women for fun plus when racing can only overtake people while punting them off track. Plus the fact Red Bull in itself is hardly the healthiest product on earth.
Add to that the match fixing of the last race it really paints a pretty picture doesn't it.
Soldato
Hahaha, I said the same thing on a Facebook F1 post a few weeks ago, that got a lot of max fans very unhappy
Some classics here , clearly had it in for Ferrari that year
Can't blame him for the Singapore one....
Soldato
What you mean is, he's willing to take the risks and do anything to win (like any other winner in F1). The fact nobody has beaten Hamilton in so many seasons is because he's the best driver in the best car. People have to drive with risk to just beat him. Rosberg was testament to the fact that it was mostly about the car, when he managed to clinch his title.
Always said it, should be alonso and Lewis at merc, rather than submissive and non competitive bottas. He would have kept Lewis true and it would have made for better viewing. Instead of course, merc did what was best for the team and signed a 2nd driver rather than two top drivers.
Max has simply done what he has needed to win. Either driver deserved this season. A lot was said for Schumacher being a dirty cheat back in his day but he's now looked upon as the greatest of all time. It's just how it is. Lewis fans can't untwist their panties and get over the fact that moral highground and "good sportsmanship" just doesn't really work or apply at the top.
I suspect george to spend a couple seasons playing second fiddle to Hamilton and then actually being a bit of a flop if I'm honest.
Soldato
I fully expect the opposite, I think he'll push Lewis to drive harder. Given the totally new car aero and wheels etc. it will show who are the great drivers, as those are the ones who can drive cars that aren't perfectly tuned to their exacting standards and still do well in it.
To hit on taking risks, I think it is fine to be aggressive, but not so much so you end up being unsafe or causing your competitors to DNF, there has to be a line somewhere. The reintroduction of gravel traps instead of run off areas, and curbs that destroy your car would be a good start.
Commissario
No, what I mean is that he's willing to put his car in situations that force the other driver to back off or there will be an accident. That's not just taking risks, it's driving dangerously, irresponsibly and far too aggressively. He's an unsafe driver and in years gone past, he'd have killed either himself or someone else by his actions.
Statistics don't prove anything, there's no way Schumacher was the greatest of all time. When he was still racing, he was known as the arrogant cheating German in our house and that simply hasn't changed.
Caporegime
Hamilton stopped because he realised that it was costing him in the long run. Against Lewis, Max has been lucky since Lewis has largely let him go. Only in Silverstone - which Max doesn't accept is his fault - and Monza where it didn't really cost him anything, he's largely got away with it. Even when he gets penalties he doesn't understand or agree with them. Max will keep driving the same way until he's forced to stop.
Soldato
If Hamilton stood his ground and crashed with Max all them times he took evasive action Bottas would be world champion 
Unfortunately I think history proves that what Merc did was correct for them (in Lewis's titles). There can only be one WDC, from a teams point of view why should they have two drivers risking it all battling each other, when they can have one gunning for the title and one supporting. It make perfect sense. The only reason other teams don't have it is because you need someone 99% as good as the first guy, yet happy to to yield. Anyone 99% as good as the primary driver will want to be challenging for the WDC and therein lies the problem.
Yep totally. Who posted that quote from him, before the last race where he was banging on about Lewis "not understanding" his driving. The way he was talking down to Lewis was pretty damning. Such arrogance.
https://www.irishpost.com/sport/lew...controversy-as-second-lawyer-weighs-in-226335
“Article 1.1.1 of the 2021 FIA International Sporting Code makes clear that the regulations are to be enforced ‘based on the fundamental principles of safety and sporting fairness’
How on earth could the FIA contest that what Masi did was anywhere near the fundamentals of sporting fairness. He literally picked and chose who could race and who couldn't!
“Article 1.1.1 of the 2021 FIA International Sporting Code makes clear that the regulations are to be enforced ‘based on the fundamental principles of safety and sporting fairness’
How on earth could the FIA contest that what Masi did was anywhere near the fundamentals of sporting fairness. He literally picked and chose who could race and who couldn't!
Red bull are the kings of in race lobbying, Merc are not great but they not even close to RB's level of lobbying.
Really all radio from teams to RD needs to be stopped, not just TP's.
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I still don't see how Merc will be able argue that the race should be classified on the penultimate lap. Wouldn't a court of appeal simply void the race classification altogether?
This is the worst part about their appeal, they should be lobbying for change of governance practices and specifically RD, not for the race result.
As you said if the RD is deemed to have messed up the logical result is to void the race.
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