Abu Qatada
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You can spout off about me all you want. It doesn't stop you being wrong, about that or anything else.
My hatred of the far right is more vehement than my dislike of the far left. The fact that you are far right is your fault, not mine.
My hatred of the far right is more vehement than my dislike of the far left. The fact that you are far right is your fault, not mine.
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I'm going to give you some credit and assume the irony is not completely lost on you...
What about the kind of radical Islam then resulted in the death of Lee Rigby? Where does your hatred of that fit into your scale (if at all)?
What about me leads you to believe that I wouldn't hate that also?
How can you possibly believe that my hatred of right wing fanatics is limnited to a certain kind of right wing fanatics? What have I said, anywhere, ever that could possibly lead you to conclude that I think anything radical, Islam or not, wouldn't fit into my scale?
All extremists are the problem. I don't care where they sit in the moral, political or any other kind of compass. Anyone that wants to destroy or remove the liberties and freedom of others, or opress them in any way, are the problem. Prejudice has no place in this world.
That's EDL, extremist Islam, BNP, UKIP, racists, sexists... the ideal is that none of it exists.
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Awwww, I'm always too late to see these deleted messages. Damn.
Let me guess, did it go something along the lines of "SEND 'EM BACK
" ?
Let me guess, did it go something along the lines of "SEND 'EM BACK
" ?As a UAF member he won't explicitly convey his hatred for radical non-whites, particularly Islamists. He waits for White people to act up then he pounces on them with the R word or the F word, "YOU RACIST FASCIST!" or "NAZI SCUM OFF OUR STREETS!"...LOL!
I feel that i need to ask this question, where is your proof that Gilly is a member of the UAF??. Has he actually admitted that hes a member or are you just intentionally trying to wind him up so that he retaliates ****forbrains??.
Carry on though, at some point Gilly will probably ban you for good and thats not necessarily a bad thing in all honesty as your incessant rantings about his supposed membership of the UAF is quite frankly getting boring.
Hmm, hatred of Islamic extremists. A few weeks ago you were claiming that was racist in itself. Now you know why I might think the way I do of you - glad you've changed your mind now though.
I refute any and all such suggestions. Either you have misread something I've said or that is a downright lie.
I'm not a member. He knows I'm not a member. He just mislikes anyone left of his views (most people are left of his views) and thinks that anyone that isn't far right is far left.
Which is what i originally thought so hence the question which he has unsurprisingly ignored. Because unless he has proof of you being one, then evidently he is what his username suggests
.Which is what i originally thought so hence the question which he has unsurprisingly ignored. Because unless he has proof of you being one, then evidently he is what his username suggests
Maybe he should ban you for explicitly insulting me? Or maybe you will be let off for sticking up for him...
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No matter what you say there is zero credibility you can gain back after stating that the EDL had killed thousands of people. That comment is demonstrably false and there isn't a single news article or anything else for that matter that you could provide to say other wise. So are you really surprised that people are questioning you in the manner they are.
I'm sure your comments are alienating quite a few customers and potential customers with those kind of falsehoods and it's not really appropriate to be telling blatant lies on your customer support forums. You should lock this thread or keep out your personal biased opinions that can't be supported by facts.
Here are some facts:
UK has a 5% Muslim population, they account for around 80% of sexual grooming gangs, there are currently 54 Muslim grooming gangs under investigation in multiple towns and cities across the country. Article here BBC..
- On 7/7 alone over 50 people were killed and over 700 maimed with lost limbs etc. Wiki article
- Muslim gang tried to kill with IED bombs and weapons people marching at an EDL rally. Mirror article
People have a right, no a duty to speak out about Islamic extremism and it does not make them racists in the slightest, However I will conceed that there are undoubtedly racists in the EDL, but to say they all are is akin to saying every Muslim is a radical, which with both know is utter rubbish. Those links above are the tip of the ice berg I could post another hundred if needed. There are undeniable problems with Islam in this country, we must all speak out about it, just because it was not our child who was raped doesn't mean we should remain silent for fear of being labelled racists, I speak out in compassion for those that has had this happen to them and their children.
I realise I risk a ban for speaking my mind on this, but I've purchased things here and would do again, so it would be your loss not mine. Let's just hope you can take opposing ideas (supported by facts) without spitting the dummy out and abusing power.
I am not racist I never will be, I love everyone regardless of skin colour or creed, but I will not sit in silence and on the sidelines while these horrors occur in my country and to my people who I love.
The EDL is purely a nationlistic entity, while being a muslim is religious (mostly).
So the comparison is naff, EDL opinion is no different to radical Islamic opinion anyway, both utterly against the norm and loud enough to drown the norm out, both conservative mostly far right bull, both willing to physically harm each other regardless of innocence.
The EDL are not the solution, they are direct cause of perceived government inaction with radical Islam, eventually the two will come to clash at some point, invalidating it entirely.
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I have never stated this. That is not the question that was asked.
That there are some that THINK THAT I DID is irrelevant.
You get extremists on both sides. Some will see things different to others. I guess that a lot of people in this country are fed up with the way in which some extremists are not dealt with efficiently and quickly. There always seems to be some obstacle in the path of good.
To debate it is ok but it is a losing battle. There will always be slanging matches.
I for one have had a guts full of human rights and how it is used again and again to protect the guilty who make themselves out to be innocent!
No need to **** each other off on here otherwise we might find that no discussions of this nature will be tolerated in the future.
To debate it is ok but it is a losing battle. There will always be slanging matches.
I for one have had a guts full of human rights and how it is used again and again to protect the guilty who make themselves out to be innocent!
No need to **** each other off on here otherwise we might find that no discussions of this nature will be tolerated in the future.