Afghanistan Fighting

fadetoblack · 11 Jul 2009 at 18:02

Missing.String said:
And what's wrong with german exactly?

Imo Benneh makes a very valid point; everyone out there is killing people, there's no moral high ground for anyone to take. We like to dress it up with politics and by branding them as "terrorists" and "insurgents" but at the end of the day you're still aiming and shooting, just like the other guys.

B/s I was wondering when you would crawl from under stone again and quote crap again. Like you have many times before. Ps not every unit out there are killing people. You never heard of rebuilding program ???

Farore · 11 Jul 2009 at 18:03

slambo69 said:
These men are killing to save lives, they way you say it makes it sound like murder. Someone has to have the balls and step up to fight evil and in my opinion, the taliban are the bad guys here, to put it simply.

They're not paid to kill, their paid to soldier and protect.

Really? Exactly whos lives are they saving over in Afghanistan?

durruti · 11 Jul 2009 at 18:08

Why are we there in the first place

Missing.String · 11 Jul 2009 at 18:10

fadetoblack said:
B/s I was wondering when you would crawl from under stone again and quote crap again. Like you have many times before. Ps not every unit out there are killing people. You never heard of rebuilding program ???

I'm sure the majority of people there have the goal of shooting those dirty terrorists for the good of our oh-so-threatened-by-them nation. :rolleyes:

And you still didn't tell me what's wrong with german.

Efour · 11 Jul 2009 at 18:10

Apparently we are stopping terrorist attacks in the UK faq

I mean we haven't had any for ages now right ?

I agree its a bogus war but now we are in it the people that have to fight it deserve the best gear and support money can buy.

fraps · 11 Jul 2009 at 18:11

Superficial said:
edit: i will say that the figures are somewhat misleading as many countries incl. Germany and France are not moving troops into the more violent south where the real fighting is.

lol

JBuk · 11 Jul 2009 at 18:19

Anim said:
Looks like Zip has wrapped this arguement up, and rypt has proven why he'll never .... EVER be in charge of a military unit.

I wouldn't leave him in charge of a cresh tbh

fadetoblack · 11 Jul 2009 at 18:21

Missing.String said:
I'm sure the majority of people there have the goal of shooting those dirty terrorists for the good of our oh-so-threatened-by-them nation.

And you still didn't tell me what's wrong with german.

Your funny

fraps · 11 Jul 2009 at 18:26

Efour2 said:
Apparently we are stopping terrorist attacks in the UK dumb-ass.

I mean we haven't had any for ages now right ?

I agree its a bogus war but now we are in it the people that have to fight it deserve the best gear and support money can buy.

or my preferred option - coming home now and spending some more money on the NHS...

Missing.String · 11 Jul 2009 at 18:35

fraps said:
or my preferred option - coming home now and spending some more money on the NHS...

Win. I'm sure the military budget could be slashed greatly as well.

fadetoblack · 11 Jul 2009 at 18:45

Yes that's right and Then get rid off all are nukes by dropping them on Devon / Cornwall.

Missing.String · 11 Jul 2009 at 18:48

Devon? Go ahead.

Alternatively we could just keep them and not use them, I doubt they contribute that much to the budget and are quite necessary as a detterent.

Farore · 11 Jul 2009 at 18:49

durruti said:
Why are we there in the first place

You tell me.

We originaly went to get OBL. Now that he's no where to be seen, we decided we dont like the Taliban and want to take them out of power. The problem is that the Taliban dont have any central place they operate from. Also, why should we be taking out a controling party just because we dont like them? What exactly are we dieing for out there?

^^Gord^^ · 11 Jul 2009 at 18:53

fraps said:
or my preferred option - coming home now and spending some more money on the NHS...

Missing.String said:
Win. I'm sure the military budget could be slashed greatly as well.

The defence spending has been cut as far as it can and I think the NHS is already funded well.

The defence budget is about £33bn and the NHS about £103bn.

They don't need more money, they need to be more effecient!

slambo69 · 11 Jul 2009 at 18:59

Farore said:
Really? Exactly whos lives are they saving over in Afghanistan?

Have you read what the Taliban got up to in their time in power? The massacres that they committed were atrocious.

Stolly · 11 Jul 2009 at 19:03

Farore said:
You tell me.

We originaly went to get OBL. Now that he's no where to be seen, we decided we dont like the Taliban and want to take them out of power. The problem is that the Taliban dont have any central place they operate from. Also, why should we be taking out a controling party just because we dont like them? What exactly are we dieing for out there?

My, how soon we forget.

The Taliban provided the location where Osama Bin Laden and his comrades planned 9/11. They were his closest allies and he was there as their guest.

That alone makes them our enemies, even without their brutal occupation of Afghanistan and their efforts to turn it into their version of a 7th century religious theocracy.

Stolly · 11 Jul 2009 at 19:09

benneh said:
I was just reading about this in a newspaper, and I didn't feel anything.
I just can't feel sympathy for someone whos job it is to kill other people, regardless of politics, reasoning and so on. I support our returning troops, in the sense that I would imagine that some of them have a very hard time dealing with that they have seen, and in the sense that their families at home should be given financial security and some kind of mental support network, but I can't get past the fact that if you're paid to kill then you're a bad human being. That goes for the 'enemy' also.

You are a shockingly naive and ignorant person. Support returning our troops ? Sounds like you wish the whole nasty business of having armed forces would just go away.

Perhaps if we could just be lovely to everyone they will all just love us back eh ?

Superficial · 11 Jul 2009 at 19:26

..nvm

durruti · 11 Jul 2009 at 19:45

Farore said:
You tell me.

We originaly went to get OBL. Now that he's no where to be seen, we decided we dont like the Taliban and want to take them out of power. The problem is that the Taliban dont have any central place they operate from. Also, why should we be taking out a controling party just because we dont like them? What exactly are we dieing for out there?

Rhetorical question..

US/Britain are the leading terrorist states

Missing.String · 11 Jul 2009 at 19:50

durruti said:
Rhetorical question..

US/Britain are the leading terrorist states

Unfortunately they're also very good at disguising it, hence this ugly situation we have here. :/