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Ageia Physics : Is it worth it??

@ lay-z-boy & Pottsey:

If both of you have the PPU then why not purchase the games you are in discussion about and do a review?. That would settle it for the time being as you've all been in this debate for maybe years now.
 
At the moment I would say not to buy a PPU as the way forward for Ageia Physx API is via the CUDA implementation on GPU's.

Nvidia have said that not going to develop the seperate PPU any further but will run in CUDA on GPU's as well as allow other manufacturers to implement on there GPU's as well.
 
Only buy one if you are interested in Ageia Physx and the games you want to play support it. I would not waste my money on one though, they seem to be a waste at the moment.

Especially as posted earlier, Nvidia and Ageia are working together to create a driver mix.
 
Pottsey said:
“Oh, I'm lying am I?”
Yes you are unless you talking about something different then I think you are, you where talking about the physx maps for ut3 are you not?
How is a massive tornado ripping buildings to bits among everything else it did like wind a minor effects that you had to try to notice. How can you call destructible walls, floors, walkways and rooftops minor effects that you had to try to notice?
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Oh, is that what it's doing? :p

As far as I tried, I could only destroy parts of certain walls. The problem is, if your actually playing with other people/bots, you don't really notice things like that. Instead your focused on fragging the other players.

Pottsey said:
“Benchmarks?
What have they got to do with anything,”
They prove what the PPU does and doesn’t do. Benchmarks show that in the worse case the minimum FPS drops below 30fps without a PPU and stays above 30fps with the PPU.

I find it very hard to believe your minimum FPS is 60fps unless you’re playing on low settings. Anything that boosts minimum FPS is good.
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Yes but I'm on about my first hand experience not 3rd party testing. I'm also running ut3 on an x9000 @ 3.2, 8800m gtx sli, 4gb + the physx 100m card at 1920x1200 with 2x aa.

btw, can you please use the quote button?, it's a pain trying to reply to your posts. :)
 
Physics (note the spelling) is THE next big battle ground. With intel buying up Havok and due to enter the GFX market soon (end of this year?) and nVidia acquiring Ageia you can be your bottom dollar that both companies have spotted a market that's ripe for exploitation. I suspect that, like graphics and sound, over the next year or 2 almost all 'top end' games will include a significant physics element that will benefit from some form of hardware acceleration, be it nVidia's 'The way it's meant to be hyped' or Intel's multi core solution lending one or more core(s) to the task. I don't think we'll see a stand alone card like the ageia winning the day - but in a year or 2 we will look back on them and recognise their vision - a bit like the original 3D cards ;)
 
Ageia Physics : Is it worth it?

Maybe... for example when you can do proper weather effects with rain dripping off surfaces properly, etc. it would add tons to the realism.

Right now tho no
 
Sorry to tag onto/hijack this thread but i don't see the point in creating a new one just for a similar named question.

Long story short i can currently get one for £15 as it is end of line stock from a local computer store but is it worth the purchase?

The only Physx (or how ever you spell it) enabled game i own (as far as i'm aware) is UT2007 which seems to run quite happily on my 7900gs at 1280*1024 with only a tiny bit of visible fps drop every so often.

would it be worth the purchase just for this game? would there be a noticeable frames increase?
I do play the game quite a lot incase you are wondering.


Again i apologise for kind of taking over a thread lol


Oh and hi btw i'm a long time lurker first time poster please be kind :D
 
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Hehehe ello Fonz-Valo, I was a long time lurker till I finally took the plunge. Welcome :)

Anyahoot, £15 seems like a good deal, but if thats the only game you have that uses Physx, it sounds to me (from the replies on this thread) it may be better to save the money and buy a better graphics card....
 
Hey [ZiiP]carrot i was kind thinking that to be honest.

The problem i currently have is that my motherboard is based on a via chipset and it has a lot of problems working with a lot of current gen cards that i'm interested in e.g. 8800gt 9600gt. i've been thinking of getting a new motherboard and a 8800gt since they are so cheap now! :D

thanks for the advice carrot :)
 
“If both of you have the PPU then why not purchase the games you are in discussion about and do a review?. That would settle it for the time being as you've all been in this debate for maybe years now.“
I do have the game and PPU which is why I am in disagreement about what he said. As much as I don’t like the levels it’s wrong to say the physics are minor and hard to notice. I don’t like the levels due to bad map design and not being fun to play along with the stupidly long load times. But physics wise they are pretty good. http://www.ageia.com/physx/ut3.html watch the video from the beta map on the bottom of the page and watch the tornado rip buildings to bits. Watch then break though walls, hardly what I would call hard to notice physics.

Don’t have time to write a full review and there are loads out there written by people with much better English skills then me. Even if I wrote a fair review people who disagreed with it and just call is bias as I am a fan boy.






“would it be worth the purchase just for this game? would there be a noticeable frames increase?”
At £15 it might be fun to play with. You can download all the free games like Warmonger, Cellfactor and tech demos like Hanger of Death e.c.t A PPU isn’t needed for UT but it’s better to have one then not. Newer games based of UT should also work with the PPU. But it’s a little too early to tell.
 
MystaEB said:
Ageia: A solution in search of a problem.
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And that'll be why nvidia, a multi billion pound company, bought them then?

Fonz-Valo said:
Long story short i can currently get one for £15 as it is end of line stock from a local computer store but is it worth the purchase?
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If I had the chance to grab one for £15, I'd grab it straight away. For £15, you can play around with the games that currently support it, and then you'll have a dedicateed PPU for when PhysX games become more popular - which they *will* now that nvidia are implementing the PhysX API through CUDA.
 
If they were that cheap, there would be much more support. the PPU is kinda like DX10. Its there, game manufacturers can make games for it, but so few people have one that it would be a waste of their development time. I was originally ver interested in the PPU, it seemed like a really cool idea. But for £90? No thanks. I'd rather upgrade one of the other components.
 
milkinc13 said:
bledd only Nvidia like them otherwise i don't think they would have brought out Ageia
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uvmain said:
And that'll be why nvidia, a multi billion pound company, bought them then?
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Thats not it at all - after Intel buying Havok, nVidia needed a presence in the physics world to ensure they were competitive and could get a piece of the market - made sense to buy Agiea to get that presence and not because they like their implementation at all...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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