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Alder Lake-S leaks

How many people on this forum would even be able to tell the difference between a 10400F and 12900k with a 3090@1440p or above with no fps OSD?

How is that a reason for not providing that information?

@Grim5 That vacation, i really need your help man.....
 
How is that a reason for not providing that information?

@Grim5 That vacation, i really need your help man.....
The point I'm making though is we have hit diminishing returns on CPUs probably since the 10th gen and until GPUs start to get faster we are likely to only see a couple of % extra every CPU generation now.

I certainly don't think zen 3D will be the 15% AMD touted which if I remember was when the 2 CPUs compaired were locked at 4ghz so would be more heavily CPU bound.
 
I know someone who wanted to move away from X58 finally to save on heat/power, but they've changed their minds now. I wonder how many cancellations or alterations to orders have been made due to DDR4/DDR5 and or heat/power.

:D I'm sitting here with my X58 setup (toasting crumpets on the overclocked Xeon) and taking a peek to see if it's time to upgrade yet - still plenty of life left in the old girl yet...

Setup before that was an FX-60 - $905 at the time :eek: (Exchange rate was probably a lot better back then).
 
The point I'm making though is we have hit diminishing returns on CPUs probably since the 10th gen and until GPUs start to get faster we are likely to only see a couple of % extra every CPU generation now.

I certainly don't think zen 3D will be the 15% AMD touted which if I remember was when the 2 CPUs compaired were locked at 4ghz so would be more heavily CPU bound.

And?

#### CPU Leninism some of us want the Capatalist Porsche and are willing to pay for it even if the Lada will do.
 
Very very late to the thread here, because i have actually read every review i can find, as well as the posted on here. On the face of it, ADL is very very good.
Will it be be very very good going into the future ? My view is not, not only is it not..................my view is that ADL will go rapidly backwards in the not too distant future. Even more so if Intel are actually basing their future arc on this.
 
The point I'm making though is we have hit diminishing returns on CPUs probably since the 10th gen and until GPUs start to get faster we are likely to only see a couple of % extra every CPU generation now.
Y'know, some of us don't play games. I've certainly seen no "diminishing returns" as CPUs have gotten more powerful. Very little gaming difference between my i5 2500 and i7 6700K, but my rendering and editing times are like night and day, and further improved when I've borrowed my gf's 2600X.

PC gaming is a silly little niche, by all means stick with Comet Lake if you don't see any gaming performance improvements.
 
Y'know, some of us don't play games. I've certainly seen no "diminishing returns" as CPUs have gotten more powerful. Very little gaming difference between my i5 2500 and i7 6700K, but my rendering and editing times are like night and day, and further improved when I've borrowed my gf's 2600X.

PC gaming is a silly little niche, by all means stick with Comet Lake if you don't see any gaming performance improvements.

If i remember rightly he has a 5950X, which just makes his apparent adversity to benchmarking games at the CPU limit all the more puzzling, that spicy CPU has been the king of the baked sand for all of its 21 months in existence.
 
Y'know, some of us don't play games. I've certainly seen no "diminishing returns" as CPUs have gotten more powerful. Very little gaming difference between my i5 2500 and i7 6700K, but my rendering and editing times are like night and day, and further improved when I've borrowed my gf's 2600X.

PC gaming is a silly little niche, by all means stick with Comet Lake if you don't see any gaming performance improvements.
Well after all we were discussing game benchmarks, obviously multicore has improved but then that's not much help unless it benefits the workloads you use.
 
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Hi there

For a change its great to see a manufacturer give us 1000's of units to have on the shelf, that is how a launch should be, good work Intel.
Still all CPU's in stock, but 12900K retail numbers are now less than 100 units left, around 300ish tray left though so we be good.

Hopefully motherboard and DDR5 manufacturers will catch up! Plenty of DDR4 3600 kits in stock and also at amazing prices too. Also about to do some deals on Gigabyte 3333MHz and 3733MHz DDR4 kits at very cheap prices.

Great launch from Intel, with huge amounts of stock. :)
 
What AMD needs to do is reduce prices IMHO. ATM,yes,you could say Z690 motherboards are pricey,but reviews show DDR4 is good enough in most cases. The issue is that Intel will release its B650/B660 motherboards at some point,and CPUs such as the Core i5 12400F.

Yes a B660 mobo and 12400 will most likely be the value king when they are released.

It is great news that Intel are competetive again and lets hope this drives prices down.
 
Hi there

For a change its great to see a manufacturer give us 1000's of units to have on the shelf, that is how a launch should be, good work Intel.
Still all CPU's in stock, but 12900K retail numbers are now less than 100 units left, around 300ish tray left though so we be good.

Hopefully motherboard and DDR5 manufacturers will catch up! Plenty of DDR4 3600 kits in stock and also at amazing prices too. Also about to do some deals on Gigabyte 3333MHz and 3733MHz DDR4 kits at very cheap prices.

Great launch from Intel, with huge amounts of stock. :)


It feels like Intel is happy to delay its launches to build up stock. I believe they are doing the same with their graphics cards, they could launch them today but are waiting another 2 months to build stock
 
You can't buy any mobos from ocuk or DDR5 but great launch, i'll just stare at my alder cpu.
its kinda the reverse of the ryzen 5000 launch where we had plenty of MB and ram but no CPUs.

It feels like Intel is happy to delay its launches to build up stock. I believe they are doing the same with their graphics cards, they could launch them today but are waiting another 2 months to build stock

AIBs are probably drip feeding the boards in and then hoping to raise prices as that worked a treat for GPUs.
 
It feels like Intel is happy to delay its launches to build up stock. I believe they are doing the same with their graphics cards, they could launch them today but are waiting another 2 months to build stock

This is 100% the way to go and I'm sure Nvidia will be stockpiling the 4000 series for many months prior to launch, after the 3000 series fiasco.
 
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