But the discussion is about Alder Lake, that's the point. Or should discussion be confined purely to a little tidbit of information and then halted completely until something else comes up? There is nothing to discuss beyond speculation and rumour until a real product lands on our doorstep. Such speculation is, of course, performance figures and how it will stack up to the competition. Ppart of that involves Intel's marketing numbers, which automatically fall under scrutiny because A: don't trust marketing, B: especially don't trust Intel's marketing, C: Intel's proven track history with delivering on those numbers, or not as the case often is.
It's just unfortunate that such discussion will inevitably be negative because Intel have not delivered anything close to their marketing numbers for quite some time. That's just the way it is. So I'm sorry if you think we're going on bashing Intel, but that's just the way it is right now. Intel haven't delivered anything like they've claimed for ages and a lot of their marketing has been heavily skewed, biased and outright paid shill nonsense (especially true since Ryan Shrout got hired).
This is not emotive or bias or fanboyism, this is cold, hard, fact. This is also a valid part of the discussion.
So your comments on the slide were about Alder Lake? If they were then apologies, I misunderstood.