Alder Lake-S leaks

[=XDC=FluphyBunny]

Demand will be strong, we've sold 100's already which considering the lack of DDR5, bundles and reviews is just bonkers.

People openly admit pre-ordering with the view of cancelling or returning so best hope the reviews are good!

 

[Adrian1976]

Ahh yeah I see now. Surely though if the board has the 1200 holes then just use the AIO's 1200 standoffs etc as if it was a 1200 socket CPU? The height remains the same does it not between 1700 and 1200?

I have no idea lol but am hoping the Arctic Freezer II I ordered just works this way else I'll be twiddling thumbs too.

It would seem they're shorter as the other poster said, Actually thinking about it now logically makes sense because the IHS is thinner apparently on the 12900k so I'm not sure what's going but looks like I might be stuck lol.

 

[4K8KW10]

Because of this rectangular shape, the dies look like cut in a third from something bigger.

Why don't they make them square in shape?

 

[Adrian1976]

1700 is lower than 1200.

https://videocardz.com/newz/non-lga...enly-distribute-pressure-over-alder-lake-cpus

Aah yeah that makes sense now oh well if Corsair don't release these standoffs soon it will be a nice decoration for a while lol.

 

[Freddie1980]

Hm not bad, bravo asus.



Spits out coffee all over the desk, jesus ****

Yep, £215 back on the ROG MAXIMUS Z690 EXTREME GLACIAL. I'm guessing the "Glacial" mockier describes the pace at which ASUS will undoubtedly process your cashback claim.

This guy has to wait 156 days for Asus to process his cashback claim

Received cashback today. Thought it was a spam email at first due to the email title "ninepoint consulting GmbH has sent you money"

Registered for the cashback promotion on 09/12/2019 so that's 156 days ago, or 107 working days. A little longer than their terms and conditions stated (expected 90 working days).

Asus came back to me saying they can see my claim and it will be paid within 90 days, so sometime in May perhaps, lol.

Still not a peep on the review aspect, but I'll just take it as a lesson learnt and not fall for marketing again

OCUK should really steer well clear of cashback promotions they cause nothing but trouble, angry and ultimately leads to people not trusting the companies involved.

 

[typod]

Get an Asus mobo and simply use the LGA 1200 mounting holes instead as their boards have both hole sets! Can then use your AIO's 1200 bracket.

Any idea how we can find out how well that will work? All the AIO manufactures seem to be lagging with info given how close we are to having CPU's in consumers hands

 

[Adrian1976]

Any idea how we can find out how well that will work? All the AIO manufactures seem to be lagging with info given how close we are to having CPU's in consumers hands

Your bracket will fit because Asus have made like a bigger hole but it won't sit evenly flat on the core because the 12x series are thinner, I honestly cannot believe these cooler manufacturers did not have these ready weeks and weeks ago absolutely ludicrous.

 

[Albaba]

@mrk I'm still on a 6700K so would be great to hear your comparisons when you get set up! Toying with a 12700K upgrade....

 

[typod]

Your bracket will fit because Asus have made like a bigger hole but it won't sit evenly flat on the core because the 12x series are thinner, I honestly cannot believe these cooler manufacturers did not have these ready weeks and weeks ago absolutely ludicrous.

Thanks, thats what I thought. I will put up with mine until the AIO companies pull their finger out and I can get a fully supported cooler.

 

[g67575]

There's an admission here that Alder Lake E-Cores clock for clock are roughly the same speed as Comet Lake cores, so they aren't bad:

https://static.techspot.com/images2/news/bigimage/2021/10/2021-10-27-image-5-j_1100.webp

Trouble is, they run around 3.9ghz out the box, so their potential will depend on overclocking.

It looks like the jump from Comet Lake > Alder Lake will be significant on the performance/large cores though.

When judging Alder Lake, it probably makes sense to ignore the 11th gen...

Intel wants people to compare the 12th gen. to Rocket Lake though, because it had a maximum of 8 cores and had performance issues in some situations. Plus it highlights the multithreading improvement vs an 8 core CPU.

 

[V F]

There's an admission here that Alder Lake E-Cores clock for clock are roughly the same speed as Comet Lake cores, so they aren't bad:

https://static.techspot.com/images2/news/bigimage/2021/10/2021-10-27-image-5-j_1100.webp

Trouble is, they run around 3.9ghz out the box, so their potential will depend on overclocking.

It looks like the jump from Comet Lake > Alder Lake will be significant on the performance/large cores though.

When judging Alder Lake, it probably makes sense to ignore the 11th gen...

It's sad that was a pure desperation attempt. As it came with a lot of board issues I had read.

 

[=XDC=FluphyBunny]

The 12700KF at RRP is going to be an interesting prospect for many who are looking at a 5800x.


Shame no real gaming benchmarks.

 

[Adrian1976]

Thanks, thats what I thought. I will put up with mine until the AIO companies pull their finger out and I can get a fully supported cooler.

Yeah same here, I have had to actually buy the H150i Elite Capelix for that reason to replace my H150i Pro RGB, There seems to be nothing available, Rather annoying the fact that boards are ready but not coolers.

 

[mrk]

Hmm that's interesting, so I guess we'll just have to wait for the reduced height stand offs from all makers then by the looks of things whether using 1200 or 1700 holes?

 

[Armageus]

There's an admission here that Alder Lake E-Cores clock for clock are roughly the same speed as Comet Lake cores, so they aren't bad

If the E cores were that good, why haven't Intel just released a 32 E-Core part? (or however many would fit in the same space)

 

[mrk]

They have to save some tech for the next version plus AMD have said they're not changing from their zen architecture so maybe this is Intel's secret sauce formula?

 

[Armageus]

Take with the usual bias it deserves, but some interesting points here:
https://semiaccurate.com/2021/10/27/intels-alder-lake-is-needless-complexity/

 

[scubes]

think ill be waiting for there overclocked bundles i cant do all that fiddling about . there support with there bundles is excellent.

 

[Adrian1976]

Hmm that's interesting, so I guess we'll just have to wait for the reduced height stand offs from all makers then by the looks of things whether using 1200 or 1700 holes?

Yeah sure is, I mean I really can't see what the problem is to be honest not Ideal in the least.

 

[Kelt]

Hmm that does make sense. Alright time to just wait some days and see how things are when the packages arrive then I guess.

Out of curiosity I fished out the order invoice of my current spec, actually 2016 not 2015 as I first thought but anyway:

October 2016
£304.98 INTEL CORE I7 6700K OEM
£5.99   ARCTIC SILVER AS5 3.5G
£124.99 CORSAIR HYDRO H115I CPU COOLER
£164.99 GIGABYTE GA-Z170X-GAMING 5

Total: £600.95

To:

October 2021
£389.99 Intel Core i7-12700KF 3.60GHz (Alder Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail
£15.95  Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut High Performance Thermal Paste - 5.5g / 1.5 ml
£94.99  Arctic Liquid Freezer II High Performance CPU Water Cooler - 280mm
£199.99 Asus Prime Z690-P D4 - Intel Z690 DDR4 ATX Motherboard

Total: £700.92

Not bad at all I'd say.

You can thank AMD for this.

Without them, the 12700 would still have only four cores!