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Alder Lake-S leaks

One other thing that springs to mind with the mind boggling power consumption leaks is how much power does the intel E core to a single ryzen core.

The main reason I want to go to 12th gen is the ram. I'm on a i7 4790 at the minute so still would have to buy RAM regardless as I'm on DDR3.

I've had intel cpus for as long as I can remember. The last AMD cpu I had was a 386DX-40 (I'm old) !
 
mrk said:
I'm the one upgrading, so I care!
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We care as well. :D

Do you have ever use imaging software like PIPP or AutoStakkert by any chance? PIPP is single threaded and AutoStakkert uses a combination of single thread and multithread but the great thing is PIPP has an inbuilt timer and AutoStakkert has individual timings for each section so is great to make a comparison.

When I tested PIPP on my 5800X at 5Ghz with memory at 3800Mhz C14 1:1 it was ~10% faster than my 9700K though in games like Shadow of the Tomb Raider you posted above it came out slightly slower than the 9700k.

It should be very interesting how AL really fares across the spectrum of software people use.
 
Joxeon said:
Inflation hasn't gone up by 300% in the past 2 years though.
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Where did the 300% come from? CPU's and motherboards have not gone up 300%, neither have GPU's. 3080's are £650, 3090's are £1399, from the popular Nvidia source. Just because you can chose to buy pay £3k doesn't change this fact.
 
Dave2150 said:
Where did the 300% come from? CPU's and motherboards have not gone up 300%, neither have GPU's. 3080's are £650, 3090's are £1399, from the popular Nvidia source. Just because you can chose to buy pay £3k doesn't change this fact.
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Where are these £650 3080s and £1400 3090s? Sure a year ago, not today. I'm not seeing them no matter where you look. Also... one time a year ago, a premium motherboard was £700.
 
V F said:
Where are these £650 3080s and £1400 3090s? Sure a year ago, not today. I'm not seeing them no matter where you look. Also... one time a year ago, a premium motherboard was £700.
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he means From Nvidia FE drops you can join alert groups to get alerted once they drop that was my escape route getting the 3080
 
Dave2150 said:
Where did the 300% come from? CPU's and motherboards have not gone up 300%, neither have GPU's. 3080's are £650, 3090's are £1399, from the popular Nvidia source. Just because you can chose to buy pay £3k doesn't change this fact.
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MSRP is a joke. No one can get those cards at those prices unless you sit in front of the PC all day tracking stock/discord alerts. AIBs themselves have stated those prices are unrealistic considering COVID inflation in shipping and component costs
 
Well looks like the 12400 and similar parts are now due for announcement in Jan, and shipping mid-March. Same for the lower end chipsets, e.g. B660 or H660.

I guess that Intel are banking on people willing to spend £230+ on a motherboard for their £270-90 i5 CPU.

AMD only need to make the 5600x £199 when the XT (or whatever it is called) comes out and they'll have the volume segment locked down again, and still be competing at the high end with the same or similar buy in costs, the 12th Gen. Intel.

Incidentally when do we think Intel will commit to going back to 1st generation, just how different so they want their architecture to be before that happens?
 
Journey said:
Well looks like the 12400 and similar parts are now due for announcement in Jan, and shipping mid-March. Same for the lower end chipsets, e.g. B660 or H660.

I guess that Intel are banking on people willing to spend £230+ on a motherboard for their £270-90 i5 CPU.

AMD only need to make the 5600x £199 when the XT (or whatever it is called) comes out and they'll have the volume segment locked down again, and still be competing at the high end with the same or similar buy in costs, the 12th Gen. Intel.

Incidentally when do we think Intel will commit to going back to 1st generation, just how different so they want their architecture to be before that happens?
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Doubt if AMD will be too keen to drop their prices. IMHO they might be glad to save a few more Zen chips for Epyc.
 
Shaz12 said:
MSRP is a joke. No one can get those cards at those prices unless you sit in front of the PC all day tracking stock/discord alerts. AIBs themselves have stated those prices are unrealistic considering COVID inflation in shipping and component costs
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just a tip you dont need to be front of the PC all day, just set the alert on phone and complete the whole checkout using phone but I get if people are at work and find it difficult to get on phone I was shopping when I got the alert and bagged the 3080 , only FE drops are at MSRP
 
uscool said:
just a tip you dont need to be front of the PC all day, just set the alert on phone and complete the whole checkout using phone but I get if people are at work and find it difficult to get on phone I was shopping when I got the alert and bagged the 3080 , only FE drops are at MSRP
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Exactly. I am at work and am never fast enough to get it at those prices.
TrixP10 said:
Doubt if AMD will be too keen to drop their prices. IMHO they might be glad to save a few more Zen chips for Epyc.
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I think they will only lower prices if Alder Lake beats them across the board in all benchmarks. If they are just trading blows, I can see the MSRP of 5950x reducing but the others to largely stay same.
 
Shaz12 said:
MSRP is a joke. No one can get those cards at those prices unless you sit in front of the PC all day tracking stock/discord alerts. AIBs themselves have stated those prices are unrealistic considering COVID inflation in shipping and component costs
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MSRP is real, want to see my invoice for an FE card? Signed up to get an alert, got one first try via my phone while sat in the pub for a lunch out. That was about a year ago.
 
TrixP10 said:
Doubt if AMD will be too keen to drop their prices. IMHO they might be glad to save a few more Zen chips for Epyc.
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If they are placing a new product into the same or similar segment then the will want some separation, I guess it depends if they have many spare dies for the lower end parts. Margins are king in the finance sector, but if you aren't making as many sales then you can make 500% margin but what good is that if you are selling 1% of what you were previously?
 
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