Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set

FloppyPoppy · 22 Oct 2021 at 17:17

Le Clandestin Brun said:
Ignoring the potential irony of the plot... how can you kill someone with a prop gun? I'm assuming a prop gun is fake and simply fires blanks or potentially something which makes the muzzle flash, but perhaps I'm wrong.

Anyone with more knowledge of film prop firearms care to enlighten me?

Also, how did he shoot the directors? I suppose if he's aiming towards camera it is understandable the aim would be towards them, but surely they wouldn't be that close to the discharge.

If the prop gun is legitimate, then would there be potential for related charges of accidental death due to negligence?

A prop gun would require CGI IIRC,

As far as blanks, a gun that can fire a blank round is perfectly capable of firing a live round it would just be unable to cycle the next round without a BFA attached.

200sols · 22 Oct 2021 at 17:18

robfosters said:
This is what gets me about Overclockers. Whenever something happens, everyone becomes an expert. It’s the same with plane crashes. Suddenly everyone’s an NTSB member.

It's a forum for discussion, what do you expect?

robfosters · 22 Oct 2021 at 17:25

200sols said:
It's a forum for discussion, what do you expect?

Maybe more than 2 RIP posts in 105 posts. It’s as if the victim is secondary to the incident

200sols · 22 Oct 2021 at 17:29

robfosters said:
Maybe more than 2 RIP posts in 105 posts. It’s as if the victim is secondary to the incident

Nobody here knew the victim, its only in the news because its Alec Baldwin therefore that is what is being discussed.

C Kent · 22 Oct 2021 at 17:29

Editted for being a moron

robfosters · 22 Oct 2021 at 17:30

200sols said:
Nobody here knew the victim, its only in the news because its Alec Baldwin therefore that is what is being discussed.

Nobody knew David Amess, but there was plenty of RIP’s there.

Longbow · 22 Oct 2021 at 17:33

Gerard said:
With the amount of movies with guns in them firing literally tens of thousands of rounds of blanks it's surprising incidents like this don't happen more frequently than they do. This article claims 43 deaths and 150 life altering injuries since 1990.

https://www.npr.org/2021/10/22/1048...-injuries-rust-movie-set-rare?t=1634916453816

43 deaths, but only 1 as far as I know from being shot, most injuries aren't firearm related due to the strict handling requirements of firearms. Far more die from cars.

robfosters said:
Maybe more than 2 RIP posts in 105 posts. It’s as if the victim is secondary to the incident

You want a forum discussion, where everyone just says RIP?

Mr Jack · 22 Oct 2021 at 17:34

C Kent said:
Seems like there's bad blood between the Baldwin brothers

They're not (closely) related.

linktoinsanity · 22 Oct 2021 at 17:35

C Kent said:
Seems like there's bad blood between the Baldwin brothers

https://twitter.com/AdamBaldwin/status/1451358883201519621?s=20

Had to double-check but they aren't brothers. I don't even think they're related.

C Kent · 22 Oct 2021 at 17:37

linktoinsanity said:
Had to double-check but they aren't brothers. I don't even think they're related.

Yeah, I'm a moron.. far to many Baldwin's

CaptainRAVE · 22 Oct 2021 at 17:38

willhub said:
If he was in the UK he'd go down

No he wouldn’t.

200sols · 22 Oct 2021 at 17:38

robfosters said:
Nobody knew David Amess, but there was plenty of RIP’s there.

Very good. When I say 'knew' it was fairly obvious I meant someone famous or known to the public.

Feek · 22 Oct 2021 at 17:50

robfosters said:
Whenever something happens, everyone becomes an expert.

I gave up in the last firearms thread because everyone knows more about firearms than those who own and use them. It was laughable.

Hades · 22 Oct 2021 at 17:55

A slight irony but the film was actually about a boy who is convicted of accidentally killing someone.

200sols · 22 Oct 2021 at 17:55

Feek said:
I gave up in the last firearms thread because everyone knows more about firearms than those who own and use them. It was laughable.

I don't know which thread you are referring too but owning a firearm doesn't mean you know everything (or anything!) Look at the USA if you want proof :eek:

Longbow · 22 Oct 2021 at 18:01

A bullet was fired according to the prop master union, police also mentioning a projectile:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/ne...-bullet-says-iatse-local-44-update/ar-AAPOuhF

Malevolence · 22 Oct 2021 at 18:06

Terminal_Boy said:
That’s why you had that big yellow BFA clamped to the muzzle. It provides enough back pressure in the barrel for the weapon to cycle and prevents any debris being discharged.

Not back then we didn't.

Mr Jack · 22 Oct 2021 at 18:08

Malevolence said:
Not back then we didn't.

When was this, Malevolence?

Thekwango · 22 Oct 2021 at 18:09

Mr Jack said:
Twitter seems to have changed the replies its floating to the top. When I looked before posting, the top replies were all the vilest ****, now they're not.

Ah ok. I always enjoy reading scummers being scummy. Probably why I enjoy GD so much

Feek · 22 Oct 2021 at 18:11

200sols said:
I don't know which thread you are referring too but owning a firearm doesn't mean you know everything (or anything!) Look at the USA if you want proof

Agreed but I’d hazard that FAC holders know a bit more about the legalities of ownership than those who haven’t had to go through the process.

But sorry, that’s all a bit irrelevant here. My fault. Move along