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and it wasn't substantially more, it made sense.
of course, Moses knows this. he'd never admit it though. the ironic thing is, liverpool probably could have afforded both with the clearout they've had.
hey ho.
Come on Pigeon - you know full well that's incredibly misleading. How big a part did Ecclestone, Darby, Amoo, Aquilani and Aurelio play last season?
We've let go 6 players that played any sort of part last season and signed 4, recalled a player from loan and Sterling's been promoted.
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Seriously? What is wrong with Madrid, they have Kaka, Ozil, Khedira, Diarra, Alonso, had Granero, bought Modric. They have three dm's and three mostly attacking central mid's, and they bring in a high wage player on loan who has been completely cack for 3 years? Mourinho is a joke, especially as Ozil/Di Maria still suck in the big games, their left backs can't defend for crap(with both of them able to play in midfield and certainly a more defensive role), and with Pepe able to play DM added to Carvalho not leaving.
The one type of player they didn't need to reinforce the team was a combative midfielder... Pepe, Coentrao, Marcelo, Alonso, Khedira, Diarra already.
Out:
Dempsey (AML)
Dembele (MC)
Etuhu (MC)
Murphy (MC)
Andy Johnson (ST)
Gecov (MC)
BH Riise (MC)
Orlando Sa (ST)
Grygera (DR)
Pogrebnyak (ST)
Salcido (DL)
In:
Richardson (AML)
Rodallega (ST)
Petric (ST)
Berbatov (ST)
Riether (DR)
Dejagah (AMR)
A lot of midfielders not replaced there
Dempsey (AML)
Dembele (MC)
Etuhu (MC)
Murphy (MC)
Andy Johnson (ST)
Gecov (MC)
BH Riise (MC)
Orlando Sa (ST)
Grygera (DR)
Pogrebnyak (ST)
Salcido (DL)
In:
Richardson (AML)
Rodallega (ST)
Petric (ST)
Berbatov (ST)
Riether (DR)
Dejagah (AMR)
A lot of midfielders not replaced there
I think Essien has been bought in as temporary cover for Diarra who went to Anzi a few hours ago.
Sounds like Stoke have managed to sign N'zonzi for £1 mil with a further £3 mil in add ons. Really happy that we've addressed our poor midfield this window
Only disappointment is the failure to move on the deadwood.
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If Liverpool had the same wage bill as Spurs, a team that finished above them, for the past two years they would have had 100mil extra to spend simply from the saved wages... and considering they wouldn't have spent the 100mil in transfers which helped bump those wages so high... we could call it 200million... but Spurs only won by paying more than anyone else would?
As you said, Spurs paid like 1mil more than anyone else would for each player. Liverpool spent about 10mil more on Downing than anyone else would, about 15mil more than anyone else would(and that other is only West ham, about another 10mil less till anyone sensible was interested), about 10mil more for Henderson than anyone else would, about 10mil more on Johnson than anyone else would........ But that Spurs 2mil, they can only get players because of the excessive spending.... ha!
It doesn't matter what part they did or didn't play last season. Fact is we've freed up a lot of funds and done **** all with it in the area that really needed improving.
One of the highest chance created per game last season as a team, and no one put them away, all those chances made with a 'terrible' midfield.
The answer? weaken up top, obviously.
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I think Essien has been bought in as temporary cover for Diarra who went to Anzi a few hours ago.
Sounds like Stoke have managed to sign N'zonzi for £1 mil with a further £3 mil in add ons. Really happy that we've addressed our poor midfield this window
Hmm, even then thats mad, with Carvalho still there its even a better idea to push Pepe out of defence where he's... completely ruddy mental and not very good. But they've got so many stupidly expensive high wage players who don't play every game, Diarra/Khedira split the games between them, and they've added Modric as well now anyway.
Either way, why didn't they buy a good midfielder, Essien when not injured has been terrible for years and has been injured more than not as well. A sensible manager would loan in a youngster with an option to buy as cover for someone who has potential, not a guy who injury has ruined completely on a huge wage, its just absolutely daft.
As I asked Purdy earlier, how much have we freed up and can you break it down?
By my calculations we've spent around £20m net on transfers and cut our wage bill by around £7m per year, taking into account all outgoings, incomings, pay-offs and new contracts.
It's very likely that Sterling and Agger will both end up with new deals and decent pay rises fairly soon that will cut that £7m per year saving.
My point was more an argument as to where the funds went, rather then assuming we had more to spend.
cause you know better than mourinho dont you
you really make me laugh with your rants
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There is saving money and there is, insane attempts to win at all costs, and a middle ground. You've saved a crapload in wages, but I think overall hurt the teams potential quite badly as you say, I think lack of numbers will hurt over a season more than the goals but they are both serious issues. You could do a Pompie and ignore debt and just spend to maintain position... Liverpool aren't even remotely close to that position. In the middle is sensibly spending 5-10mil on some goals to bolster the team and stop them being in serious danger of slipping down the table.
Pompie spent 10's of mils while in massive debt with a small income to maintain a pipe dream, Liverpool have a huge income, were only overspending a moderate amount, have brought that in hugely wage wise and 5-10mil and one more player wasn't going to hurt you at all. Saving 2mil on Dempsey in this situation is closer to suicidal than sensible.
yes but he had no interest in villa he would have been mad to of gone to villa they are relegation candidates this season for sure.
baffles me that no ones snapped up bent, he would be cheap and hes prolific in the prem
tbh though, the way villa are right now, id turn down a move there to... youd be downgrading from fulham to villa quality wise imo.
Are you really the best person to say that?
I agree that Liverpool aren't that bad off though, defence is the same as it was last season, midfield has improved massively and although you haven't improved up front (albeit scoring goals was the problem last season) Carroll wouldn't of got many games had he stayed anyway so as long as nothing happens to Suarez you shouldn't be any worse off. The only real weakening you may have done is Borini in for Bellamy but that's me purely speculating after seeing Borini once
Liverpool werent going to finish top 4 this season anyway so surely all Rodgers has really got to do is match Dalglish's league position and push on next summer, there's always January for Liverpool to do another Carroll style signing as well
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Essien will be backup for Khedira and Alonso in case one of them gets injured. Mourinho knows Essien from his time at Chelsea, so I can see why he's signed him. Plus it's a bit mental to criticise one of the world's best managers with a proven record of winning.
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