Always thought PC gaming was losing to the Consoles...

I bet WoW subs account for 10% of that figure alone. Add up all the other MMO subs with it too and, well....

The biggest issue/worry for PC gaming is that the big companies are prefering to make blockbuster titles on console instead, with a crap PC port as an afterthought if we are lucky. Sure, the PC platform is still great for indie/small companies that make budget games but is that really what it's come down to now?? All that potential/top end hardware going to waste on games that could run on a DS? Look at retro gaming, it's more popular than ever....ever wondered why that is? Because the current gen of PC games are mostly rubbish, that's why!

The PC has always been an enthusiasts platform, it's so modular and configurable. A hobby for many of us infact. But without top notch cutting edge games (in both graphics and gameplay) it diminishes it's potential quite significantly. As I keep saying, the PC is no more than a MMO/online shooter platform these days.
 
snowdog said:
Until there will be mainstream mouses + keyboards for consoles and more strategy games for console, Strategy fans like me will never move away from pc, I value strategy games over any other genre and wasted more time on strategy games than on all other genres together.
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I'd love to see an Xbox 360 or PS3 try to handle SupCom :p Granted, my quadcore won't stay nice and fast in an 8-player match but that's due to the AI.

I remember playing C&C Red Alert on the Playstation and that actually worked pretty damn well I found. Really enjoyed it on there and then I started playing it on the PC. Stayed with the PC ever since :)

As long as there's a nice selection of fancy and epic RTS' on the PC, I'm happy :D
 
Ozzie Dave said:
Look at retro gaming, it's more popular than ever....ever wondered why that is? Because the current gen of PC games are mostly rubbish, that's why!
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To be honest, it's not looking too exciting on the consoles either atm. There's been one or two decent offerings, but they're few and far between imo.
 
DampCat said:
Yup. PC gaming is dying, as well we know from the 500 threads a week we have on the subject.

Piracy is killing it. Consoles are better and have more choice and less piracy. Woe is the PC. The end is nigh, the consoles are coming!
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true story! :p
 
snowdog said:
Rubbish, strategy games out sell shooters.
According to this anyways:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_PC_video_games


I know it's prolly as incomplete as hell because I miss many good games on it but it's still a more or less guide for it, I see more strategy games at the top 20 of the list than shooters.
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People online is significantly lower than shooters in my experience, which was my point. Even the last bastion of PC gaming (RTS) is in decline, in terms of quality, not to mention attempts by the big players to consolise them. Look at Dawn of War II, it felt like a dumbed down console game, maybe Relic are warming themselves up for a push to consoles too...
 
Even WoW on its own makes PC a formidable platform compared to the consoles. Then you got all the other PC games ever to have existed...

People who say PC gaming is dead are barking mad. The sheer number of users is mind boggling.
 
KNiVES said:
Even WoW on its own makes PC a formidable platform compared to the consoles. Then you got all the other PC games ever to have existed...

People who say PC gaming is dead are barking mad. The sheer number of users is mind boggling.
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That's not the imediate worry though, at least not for me. It's not what we have now, it's the future that looks dodgy. We are seeing the first signs of it through what I already said, big companies are turning away from the PC in their droves.
 
i have a ps3 console and it is rubbish compared to the pc...i have all the lastest games for it...still rubbish..will be selling it to a relative very soon
 
snowdog said:
Rubbish, strategy games out sell shooters.
According to this anyways:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_PC_video_games


I know it's prolly as incomplete as hell because I miss many good games on it but it's still a more or less guide for it, I see more strategy games at the top 20 of the list than shooters.
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isnt it really odd how a lot of the best selling pc games of all time are RTS/old school RPG/stratergy games yet there hasnt really been many high profile big budget ones in the last few years
 
I think we can blame the development cycle for that arknor. I'm under the impression games take much longer to make but when they do a quick job about it's always buggy.

It seems attention to detail comes into play a lot nowadays, how good the graphics, physics and most of all game play come into it. All of it was new back then so it made a huge impact, 3d graphics etc. Now it's difficult to introduce something completely new to bowl us over apart from shaders 9.0 and updated graphics engines.
 
I think the main issue people have with PC gaming is that a lot of people just don't understand PC's, whereas with a console they don't need to know what piece of hardware is in it and what driver it has!

If someone developed a website that basically told everyone a decent PC spec and added upgrades etc as time went along as well as driver info and instructions on installing and upgrading you would have a lot of 'noobs' using it. They would all have very similar specs, as well as the knowledge that if one of them is having a problem with a game they could go to that website for help.

Basically, it would be an upgradable console in effect.

I've been up all night so I hope that makes sense :D
 
arknor said:
isnt it really odd how a lot of the best selling pc games of all time are RTS/old school RPG/stratergy games yet there hasnt really been many high profile big budget ones in the last few years
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The list is incomplete as I said, games like CoD aren't even in the list while they would be somewhere high up, I think games like CoH should be in the list too but aren't.


But yeah, older games do well, that's how pc gaming is, retailers still sell Age of empires collectors edition ( aoe1 + exp, aoe2+exp) on dvd and it still sells, warcraft 3 and warcraft 3 exp are 15 each, and still sell for 30 together... Older games simply run on all pc's, while only a small percentage can run modern games reasonably well, I nearly don't know anyone with a proper pc these days, just a few people, the majority has bricks with p4's in them still and switched to laptops after, and you know what crap lappy's come with, pc's are bad enough for coming with 8400gs and 7300gs like cards, lappy's are worse with their intel integrated and x1150 and geforce 8400m , even high priced lappy's come with such crap... It would be far easier if all pc's & lappy's these days shipped with a capable GPU, say 8600GT/equiv min for every dual core pc, 8800GT/equiv min for every quad core system. Unfortunately new lappy's and pc's still ship with far far worse crap and they have the vague idea to call it gaming capable that way.
 
The Pc needs It's next gen wave of online first person shooters.

Operation flashpoint 2 and Arma 2 look good but lets see how the online is.
 
Another one of these threads. I think PC gaming is strong and there is a massive library of PC games, bigger than any console, infact probably bigger than all console games added together if I'm being honest. Consoles have their place, but they will never, ever, ever replace PCs....
 
Wonder what MS will announce later today as some think that their announcement earlier about increasing GFWL anti-piracy measures and offering a new Cloud save feature (like Steam) may be to offer PC gamers Halo3 + GOW2 as MS say they are currently implementing this tech into several PC projects they are working on! I cannot think of many other games they would build from scratch for PC so it must be some enhanced X360 ports which sold well.
 
10% of the entire yearly revenue of PC games is World of Warcraft.

It's just MMORPG's and casual games. PC gaming is dying, this BS by hardware developers doesn't really change that.

By "PC gaming" I mean big budget PC exclusive games. There will always be MMO's, Indy Games and ports.
 
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