Amd 2200g + B450 Mobo question first time ever Amd

Shinzra · 9 Mar 2019 at 15:04

hello and good afternoon everyone

So my brother is getting his first ever gaming computer and is going the amd route as limited budget.

He will be getting a Amd 2200G along with a MSI b450 pro carbon atx motherboard.

Just want to triple check that both are compatible with each other, far as I could tell they are and pc part picker is showing no issues.

Appreciate the help

CuriousTomCat · 9 Mar 2019 at 15:30

That motherboard is £119.99. If your brother is on a budget, why not buy a cheaper motherboard for £49.99?

He will then have £70 left over to buy a used GPU. The performance improvement will be like night and day for the same price or a little bit more.

StarShock · 9 Mar 2019 at 16:07

They would work fine together, and that MSI motherboard is a really good board, but as mentioned above it would make for a fairly unbalanced machine.

Though if the plan is to upgrade down the line its a decent place to start I guess

Shinzra · 9 Mar 2019 at 16:16

Thanks for the replies.

One reason was as he requires a WiFi connection due to house limitations currently and also he will be running a gtx 1060 as I thought that would go well with the 2200g at least for 1080p and budget gaming.

Later down the line he could add a better cpu if wanted

muon · 9 Mar 2019 at 16:34

Shinzra said:
Thanks for the replies.

One reason was as he requires a WiFi connection due to house limitations currently and also he will be running a gtx 1060 as I thought that would go well with the 2200g at least for 1080p and budget gaming.

Later down the line he could add a better cpu if wanted

Sound decision. I would have said the same thing as @CuriousTomCat, but if it is temporary then get a decent motherboard.

New CPUs from AMD should be out in the middle of this year.

PiKe · 9 Mar 2019 at 16:38

Good idea to go for a better board as the AM4 socket will be supported for some time yet.

Orange Nexus · 9 Mar 2019 at 17:58

Shinzra said:
Thanks for the replies.

One reason was as he requires a WiFi connection due to house limitations currently and also he will be running a gtx 1060 as I thought that would go well with the 2200g at least for 1080p and budget gaming.

Later down the line he could add a better cpu if wanted

The 2200g can game just fine with the right settings. If he does not have the GTX 1060, then hold off. Wait for the prices to really come down and prolly grab a 2060.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sM-yAsiydU

AMDPower · 9 Mar 2019 at 18:03

if you are buying a GTX 1060 for gaming then why are you going to buy a RYZEN 2200G, you wont need the internal GPU anymore?

if you are gaming at 1080P it makes much more sense to get a 1600x or 2600x, its really worth the extra money for the two extra cores specially for a budget PC gaming and at 1080P and if you are not going to be upgrading in a while it makes sense.

If you want a all in one gpu and cpu then the 2200G is really your only choice, overclocked it should provide Just about useable gaming performance.

if you cant afford a GTX1060, then maybe a RX570 4G second hand would also be ok for 1080P.

if you can hold off a few months, AMD are releasing new CPU.

Shinzra · 9 Mar 2019 at 20:15

Cheers for the replies

It was more a case of, he has a limited budget and currently does not work.

As a first ever pc for him, I just aimed to try and get a System which could be upgraded further along should he choose to, whilst also being able to run most 1080p games at a decent setting.

Based on benchmarks I believe this should be fine, though admit the first upgrade probabaly would be the cpu, but for the price seems quite good value

muon · 9 Mar 2019 at 20:16

AMDPower said:
if you are buying a GTX 1060 for gaming then why are you going to buy a RYZEN 2200G, you wont need the internal GPU anymore?

if you are gaming at 1080P it makes much more sense to get a 1600x or 2600x, its really worth the extra money for the two extra cores specially for a budget PC gaming and at 1080P and if you are not going to be upgrading in a while it makes sense.

If you want a all in one gpu and cpu then the 2200G is really your only choice, overclocked it should provide Just about useable gaming performance.

if you cant afford a GTX1060, then maybe a RX570 4G second hand would also be ok for 1080P.

if you can hold off a few months, AMD are releasing new CPU.

The 2200G is a good cheap CPU regardless of whether you use the internal graphics or not.

A 2200G with a 1060 is also far better at gaming than a 1600(X)/2600(X) with a worse GPU.

AMDPower · 10 Mar 2019 at 00:21

muon said:
The 2200G is a good cheap CPU regardless of whether you use the internal graphics or not.

A 2200G with a 1060 is also far better at gaming than a 1600(X)/2600(X) with a worse GPU.

He already has a GTX 1060 planned so that the integrated gpu is of no use, so getting a 1600x to go with with GTX 1060 is a really good combination that
will be good for few years yet. I would personally save up a little more if possible or buy second hand, should be able to get a 1600x for close to the price of brand new 2200G. Brand new 2200G is £89.99 right now i can see ryzen 1600x new for £125, me personally that £35 extra buy a much better processor.

either way 1600x or 2200G are both good choices.

muon · 10 Mar 2019 at 00:39

1600X (if you can find it for £135) is £35 down the drain with a 1060. It also requires another £10-£15 to get a CPU cooler.

Save that £50 towards a proper upgrade, when Zen 2 comes out.

Shinzra · 10 Mar 2019 at 00:44

Yh all valid advice and options, so appreciate everyone’s input.

From most games I’m seeing the 2200g and 6gb 1060 is getting at least 60fps on high sometimes ultra

So should be fine for him for a year or so then can go from there, even playing on medium settings will be fine for him, as he’s coming from a laptop which could not run any games at all

CuriousTomCat · 10 Mar 2019 at 00:45

muon said:
1600X (if you can find it for £135) is £35 down the drain with a 1060. It also requires another £10-£15 to get a CPU cooler.

Save that £50 towards a proper upgrade, when Zen 2 comes out.

The 2200G is £89.99 down the drain if it's temporary. May as well pay a bit more for a permanent CPU. DDR5 is around the corner so the motherboard wont be futureproof anyway.

AMDPower · 10 Mar 2019 at 00:51

muon said:
1600X (if you can find it for £135) is £35 down the drain with a 1060. It also requires another £10-£15 to get a CPU cooler.

Save that £50 towards a proper upgrade, when Zen 2 comes out.

Its £125 if you know where to look and it also comes with cpu cooler in the box.

CuriousTomCat · 10 Mar 2019 at 00:57

I agree with @AMDPower, a permanent CPU that will last. If it's over budget then get the cheaper motherboard. Anything temporary is wasting money.

muon · 10 Mar 2019 at 01:18

AMDPower said:
Its £125 if you know where to look and it also comes with cpu cooler in the box.

A 1600X comes with a cooler in the box?

You shouldn't be giving advice if you don't know.

Here's you answer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO-N2rCCThg

Like I said another £10-£15 expense you clearly don't have a clue about.

CuriousTomCat said:
I agree with @AMDPower, a permanent CPU that will last. If it's over budget then get the cheaper motherboard. Anything temporary is wasting money.

No it is terrible advice to lock yourself into a 6 core first generation chip, when Zen 2 is announced in 3 to 4 months.

Save the £50+ you'd spend getting a 1600X. It will give you next to no gaming benefit with a 1060.

CuriousTomCat said:
The 2200G is £89.99 down the drain if it's temporary. May as well pay a bit more for a permanent CPU. DDR5 is around the corner so the motherboard wont be futureproof anyway.

DDR5 is round the corner? Seriously you don't have a clue. DDR5 will reach the mainstream boards in late 2020, if even then.

That £90 is also less down the drain than the £140 spent on a 1600X + cooler.

CuriousTomCat · 10 Mar 2019 at 01:30

muon said:
No it is terrible advice to lock yourself into a 6 core first generation chip, when Zen 2 is out in 2 to 3 months.

Save the £50+ you'd spend getting a 1600X.

The guy is on a budget with no money so I thought Zen 2 was out of the equation. Given the choice, wait 2 to 3 months and buy Zen 2 with a genuine Zen 2 board.

This business of a temporary CPU is terrible advice in my opinion.

Shinzra · 10 Mar 2019 at 01:30

Would the pro carbon b450 need any updates at all for the 2200g?, I’m guessing as it’s a newer board it should work right out the box ?

muon · 10 Mar 2019 at 01:32

CuriousTomCat said:
The guy is on a budget with no money so I thought Zen 2 was out of the equation. Given the choice, wait 2 to 3 months and buy Zen 2 with a genuine Zen 2 board.

This business of a temporary 2200G is terrible advice in my opinion.

Doesn't have to be buying it when it launches. The OP has picked the motherboard clearly with an upgrade in mind though.

Also that 2200G will still have resale value. A £90 2200G will also lose less than a £140 1600X+cooler.

Shinzra said:
Would the pro carbon b450 need any updates at all for the 2200g?, I’m guessing as it’s a newer board it should work right out the box ?

It will support it out of the box.