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**AMD 5700 X3D Owners CLub**

A post in regard to UEFI/AGESA change logs, link.

DragonQ said:
I have Crucial Ballistix Sport LT too, it was the earlier AGESAs for Zen 2 that were all over the place with RAM timings. I think by the time Zen 3 chips were around things had improved in that area.
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No worries :) . My reason to post my experience was not to say yours was invalid :) . In no way directed at you, as I didn't quote you, it was more of a experience share as yours was too for readers of thread :) . We all test differently, tune differently, have different combos of kit, so likely our experience may differ :) . I concur launch UEFIs can be buggy and changes can occur, my prior post was a generalisation excluding launch period and perhaps should have accounted for that :) .

I did have ZEN 2 at launch I was using some Samsung B die kit (G.Skill BIN 3200MHz C14), later got the Crucial kit, as wanted to experience how Micron E was and how dual rank kit was vs 2x8GB SR/4x8GB SR. I did UEFI modding, adding a particular SMU FW when AMD where making CPU boost clocks changes on ZEN 2, link.
 
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The norm for AM4 is running IF and RAM at 3600. I'm pretty sure the x3D cache makes up for crappy mem timings so aim for whatever XMP profile you have at 3600. If you want to tweak more you want things like CL down at 14 and subtimings tRCDWR, tRCDRD, & tRP at 14 if you can push it or 16 is fine.

Generally these chips struggle when IF is set to 3800 (mine just fails to boot). There are some weird cases where 3900 and even 4000 work but then you need the RAM to run that as well as you want to keep IF:RAM at a 1:1 ratio for optimal performance.
I've tweaked mine to run the BCLK slightly higher and with one of the memory straps set to 3666 I get my IF:RAM at 3777


Overall though I'd say, don't worry about it too much...you won't really gain a massive amount of FPS off it for the time spent.
 
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Joe Jones said:
The norm for AM4 is running IF and RAM at 3600. I'm pretty sure the x3D cache makes up for crappy mem timings so aim for whatever XMP profile you have at 3600. If you want to tweak more you want things like CL down at 14 and subtimings tRCDWR, tRCDRD, & tRP at 14 if you can push it or 16 is fine.

Generally these chips struggle when IF is set to 3800 (mine just fails to boot). There are some weird cases where 3900 and even 4000 work but then you need the RAM to run that as well as you want to keep IF:RAM at a 1:1 ratio for optimal performance.
I've tweaked mine to run the BCLK slightly higher and with one of the memory straps set to 3666 I get my IF:RAM at 3777


Overall though I'd say, don't worry about it too much...you won't really gain a massive amount of FPS off it for the time spent.
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Yeah fair enough - only issue is my ram is rated to c18-22-22-22-42-64 - and it does run at that but only at 2T - not 1T as its meant to - tried increasing ram voltage v slightly but no difference, at 1T it wont even run at 18-26-26-26-58-68

Shame really - 1T would be nice - any setting I'm missing? Everything is auto except ram is 1.36v
 
Would need to know what RAM kit it is. As long as you have some airflow in the case it should easily take 1.4v

Looks like a low level kit though so maybe not much room for improvement. 1T should work.

Get ZenTimings 1.2.5 and post a screenshot of it....might show something that isn't set as it should be.
 
So I installed the 57003d, very good upgrade from my 2600.
Thanks for the advice.

In relation to my ram, I have 16gb (X2) sticks of teampgroup dark pro 8pack.
cl 14 14 14 14 31 (3200) 1.35v

D.o.c.p recognised easily and all seems sweet.
Would over locking the ram make any big difference?
Is my current ram upto it?
 
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You could, probably need to drop timings. But for gaming at least the difference would be tiny, if at all.

 
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Baron C said:
So I installed the 57003d, very good upgrade from my 2600.
Thanks for the advice.

In relation to my ram, I have 16gb (X2) sticks of teampgroup dark pro 8pack.
cl 14 14 14 14 31 (3200) 1.35v

D.o.c.p recognised easily and all seems sweet.
Would over locking the ram make any big difference?
Is my current ram upto it?
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I have CL15 3000 MHz RAM and a 5700X3D. Never bothered OCing the RAM.

Only place where the CPU might choke over my graphics card is an ultra high pop market area in Cyberpunk 2077 or a hub in Stalker 2, but these are generally non-combat zones and my idea of choking is hitting 55-60 fps with sub-100% GPU utilisation.

I think I need a keyboard toggle to switch on frame generation for these areas. Unless doing something unusual, there's no combat in these zones, so it's walking simulator / sightseeing mode - perfect for frame generation.
 
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Anyone here go from a 5800x to 5700X3D? If so was It worth the swap.
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I went from a 5700X to a 5700X3D. Here are a couple of posts I made which I stand by:

I went from a 5700X to a 5700X3D.

It's shored up all the weak spots where the former underperformed as far as I'm concerned, such as cities in WoW or dense areas in TLOU. I no longer have to gnash my teeth at a stutter or sub-60 fps camera angle when otherwise the framerate was flying.

If only I'd imported - I could've got the upgrade for free after selling the 5700X on the bay at the time :p
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I'm all about avoiding the dips and am just wanting a steady 60 fps at 4K and preferably 80+ fps on the ultrawide).

The 5700X was still lagging behind and under-utilising my 7900 XT at these high resolutions in certain areas in AAA games, even when the other 93%+ of the time I was GPU-bound. And then there are games like WoW, where hanging out in a city will be a painful experience on the 5700X.

The 5700X3D seems to have corrected these issues :)

I can't comment for those wanting to turn their 160 fps 1080p experience in to a 240 fps 1080p experience. My setup is skewed toward high-res low-refresh-rate.
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Vexr said:
I went from a 5700X to a 5700X3D. Here are a couple of posts I made which I stand by:
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Thanks for the reply.

I mainly play Hell Let Loose and Squad44 and some battlefield games at 1440p. What I've seen online the 3D chips helps with them type of game engines so I might get one but I'm hoping to pick up a 5800X3D If I can find one for a decent price.
 
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Ordered it at £200

1600 to a 5700x3D! Hope everything goes ok with updating the bios and stuff

Now hoping to get either a 5080 or 5070 TI to pair it with...
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You'll notice a huge performance boost!

And it was a very easy upgrade for me.

I was a bit sceptical as I'm so used to having to buy a new motherboard to access better, newer CPUs in the past. So much easier when the chipset is the same!
 
Recently upgdraded to this CPU from a 3600. I didn't do any benching before though, so can't be sure what performance boost I'm getting.
 
Just dropped my 5700x3d in tonight, did a few benchmarks and very happy. XMP profile for my team group 3200 ram seems good. I’m sure that ram can hit 3600 but not sure I’ll bother yet.

Still totally GPU bound on Cyberpunk with RT but BG3 and DCS World saw some great 20+ fps boosts.
 
I'm torn whether to upgrade to the 5700x3d. Currently on an x570 with 5700x boosting to 4850 with a 7900XT and 1440p (MSI 271QPX). If I have this correct, for the majority of games the performance will be the same or better, I just don't know if its worth the jump. Or wait and go AM5 later. To be fair my current gaming experience is pretty solid so may stay where I am.
 
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