Caporegime
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DragonQ;30489475 said:
Bah, I can't keep up with the dumb prices. I thought £1000 was the 10 core, the 6 core is like a hilarious £600 or something now isn't it, I figured 8 core was somewhere inbetween.
Just looking at the pricing, WTF!!!!
I guess part of it is dollars, I think the 10 core was $1500 so in my brain that is still £1000.... not any more. But 6 cores, one for £420, then another 6 core for £600, woo, more pci-e, for enthusiast where they just don't matter, you're charging people £200 to go from 2 to 4 gpus and even then the increase is woeful value, though of course people who go quadfire/sli are customers they just see as people to rip off.
My brain just doesn't work like that, good value is good value, doesn't matter if I'm spending £200 or £1000, I want good value regardless of how much I'm spending.
So 6 core at £420, 6 core again at £600, 8 core at £1000 and 10 core at £1500..... trollololololol. The problem is these chips are genuinely almost three times the size of a 7700k and so I can understand 3 times the cost, but the 7700k is absolutely tiny at 122mm^2. If you're charging £150 for a quad at 45nm, you shouldn't be charging £360 for a quad at 14nm.
A 7700k due to die size should be somewhere around the £150 mark max, a 6 core should be £250, and 8 cores sub £400.
I paid around 265 for my 5820k probably around a year ago now, pricing has gone up regardless of the pound, when prices should go down as chips get smaller and cheaper to make, something everyone seems to have forgotten.
The general trend for most of the 00's and part of the 90's is, either big clock speed bumps or wider/faster IPC cores every process node. When we hit the cores race, it somewhat went one process node, double the cores, the next process node increase the IPC massively. So one gen you put the double transistors to double the cores, the next process node you put those transistors towards making each core faster. Now you have to factor in that igpu came in and took up one cycle(two nodes) where instead of doubling core count, you doubled size but half was GPU. But that is one two node cycle, after that you go back to adding more cores or way faster cores, instead they've added 10% performance, made it way smaller AND jacked the prices up. Again in the past if you manage to shrink the core by 30-40%, you drop prices by 25-30% to match and get higher sales in a cheaper bracket. Intel just makes it smaller, whacks prices up... then does it again, then again. It's a joke.
