Ten % will do tbh, thx for the explanation, still havent unboxed my gpu yet! will do it tomorrow hopefully, i'm having so much fun with standalone!
AMD 9070XT VR good idea?
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its trading blows with the 5070ti which i assume would perform better than a 4070? if the games has dlss capability then thats nvidia only of course, although fsr4 is supposed to be decent.
Ok, I have put 100's of hours into Skyrim VR on my 6900XT.
But I have been back playing it with the Mad Dog Overhaul to test the various codecs with the 9070XT. Got to say I am now hooked again. The game looks amazing. If you haven't tried Skyrim in VR yet, it's a must play, really. And even if you have tried it, I suggest you try the Mad Dog Overhaul. It really brings the game to new heights.
For those interested, I have tried the various codecs and bitrates on the Quest 3, using Virtual Desktop, Steam Link and Airlink/Link. The three games I have used are Fallout 4 VR(Vivid Fallout), Skyrim VR(Mad Dog Overhaul) and Half Life Alyx.
I tried everything from Link at 960Mbps, to AV1 at 50Mbps. Even did a modified Steam Link configuration to get the max encoded video size.
At the end of all that testing my favourite is AV1 on Virtual desktop with 150Mbps. Depending on the game, I change the resolution between Ultra and Godlike. It's the best compromise between latency and image quality. In Skyrim, using High bitrate H.264 gave a very clean image. But, the colours are nowhere near as good as Av1. Hevc seemed to have very high latency for some reason and there were some stutters. As I said earlier I know Guy Godin said he reported the issue to AMD, so I might come back to HEVC after the next driver release.
But, what has all this testing taught me? That AMD has caught up with Nvidia in the VR side of things. And second that there is no one size fits all answer to the "what codec/bitrate do I use?" It's really down to personal preference and your own setup. How much gpu power you have, wired or wireless, router, etc. etc. And I have learned one thing, higher numbers does not equal better.
Saying that, I think if you have a GPU that supports it, AV1 at 150Mbps would probably suit the vast majority of people who use the Quest 3.
But I have been back playing it with the Mad Dog Overhaul to test the various codecs with the 9070XT. Got to say I am now hooked again. The game looks amazing. If you haven't tried Skyrim in VR yet, it's a must play, really. And even if you have tried it, I suggest you try the Mad Dog Overhaul. It really brings the game to new heights.
For those interested, I have tried the various codecs and bitrates on the Quest 3, using Virtual Desktop, Steam Link and Airlink/Link. The three games I have used are Fallout 4 VR(Vivid Fallout), Skyrim VR(Mad Dog Overhaul) and Half Life Alyx.
I tried everything from Link at 960Mbps, to AV1 at 50Mbps. Even did a modified Steam Link configuration to get the max encoded video size.
At the end of all that testing my favourite is AV1 on Virtual desktop with 150Mbps. Depending on the game, I change the resolution between Ultra and Godlike. It's the best compromise between latency and image quality. In Skyrim, using High bitrate H.264 gave a very clean image. But, the colours are nowhere near as good as Av1. Hevc seemed to have very high latency for some reason and there were some stutters. As I said earlier I know Guy Godin said he reported the issue to AMD, so I might come back to HEVC after the next driver release.
But, what has all this testing taught me? That AMD has caught up with Nvidia in the VR side of things. And second that there is no one size fits all answer to the "what codec/bitrate do I use?" It's really down to personal preference and your own setup. How much gpu power you have, wired or wireless, router, etc. etc. And I have learned one thing, higher numbers does not equal better.
Saying that, I think if you have a GPU that supports it, AV1 at 150Mbps would probably suit the vast majority of people who use the Quest 3.
Nice! I tried MGO and it was a slideshow, so I went with FUS instead which is a bit more 'vanilla' but has enough graphic and gameplay upgrades to make a huge difference.
Running Skyrim at 'Godlike' resolution at a constant smooth 80fps with over 200 mods is an incredible experience. I've been getting lots of 'feels' just walking around the towns, it's just so stirring and emotional to be able to experience this in VR, and I've got over 330 hours playing in VR. Plus 263 hours in the original, and 80 in the special edition.
I really recommend playing with one of the major modlists. It's incredible.
Good to know AMD is now a worthwhile option for VR. About time!
Just within the past hour I've tested my 9070 XT finally as it's been in its box for a week or 2. Minor issue, this card doesn't like CSM being enabled in the BIOS, doesn't run as well apparently. I've learnt I'm supposed to change CSM to UEFI in the BIOS, but now when I enter the BIOS only half the screen shows and I can't see the option I need. The card runs fine and I'm pleased with it, played a game or 2, but obviously want it running at full tilt. I've read that my PC might not boot with CSM disabled, it's a 2016 mobo.
What motherboard? I would be surprised if it doesn't have UEFI. Or that there isn't a BIOS update for it.
You should be able to turn and off CSM on that board. It might be called "legacy boot" Just set it to disabled and make sure UEFI is enabled.
It might be no harm to update to the latest BIOS while you are at it.
When I disable CSM my PC won't boot
! Tried it, had to reset the CMOS to get it running again. Apparently there might be a fix whereby I use a free MS disk utility to convert something or other to do with MBR and GPT on my hard disk where the OS is installed. Not looking forward to it but will try today probably. Thanks for the suggestions, PC's are 'fun' sometimes 
When I disable CSM my PC won't boot
Yeah, it's called MBR2GPT. It's on your computer already. You can run it from command prompt.
But since you are probably going to be backing up everything before doing this, it might be better to do a windows reinstall? Especially if you are moving from a Nvidia to AMD GPU.
Good idea about a re-install tbh, it'd tidy up my C drive and free up some space, quicken things up. Back when I bought this PC 128GB was plenty for a drive with an OS on it but nowadays I'm often running low on C drive space, and yeah a clean install would help the Nvidia to AMD transition. I just get a bit nervous of messing up what is a reliable system but I've always done re-installs ok in the past so should be ok. My important stuff is on a separate disk plus I have a backup. Cheers for the suggestion I think I will go the re-install route.
It's not to bad these days, especially if you have Windows 11. Did a reinstall recently myself and was dreading it, but was back up and running in no time.
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upgrade to a 512 and do a fresh install on that, then you dont need to worry and can revert to the 128 if you want.
And now that he is charging $50 a month for his Patreon membership, he can well afford it!!
Bit the bullet and ordered a 9800x3d pc without a gpu so I can slot my 9070 xt into it. To run my old pc in UEFI mode required me to convert my OS drive to GPT, trouble is it is already GPT lol! It has the EFI partition ready for UEFI too. So can't be bothered with it life's too short time to upgrade, have had this OC'ers pc since 2016 it's been great, I'll get a nice little amount for it on Ebay with my old 3070 fitted to it.
And now I am thinking of doing something crazy. I am actually seriously considering buying a 5070Ti. I can sell the 9070XT for nearly the same price I bought it for and a 5070Ti shouldn't cost me too much along with that. Sure I am losing both ways, but I am very curious to see how the 5070Ti compares.
And I am also totally hooked on the Mad Dog Overhaul of Skyrim VR. And that runs better on Nvidia cards.
Will see over the next few days.
And I am also totally hooked on the Mad Dog Overhaul of Skyrim VR. And that runs better on Nvidia cards.
Will see over the next few days.
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