AMD are doing one thing right.

easyrider · 6 Jan 2007 at 14:28

Final8y said:
And that exactly what im on about.

It will take a 6300 to be overclocked to match a fx60, no one ever said that it could not pass it.

Of course it will,

Everybody knows that lmao

But thasts not what he said

I'm not sure you know what you are on about now lmao

Final8y · 6 Jan 2007 at 14:30

locutus12 said:
but why would you want to is the question when an E6300 will only "match" an FX60 when its clocked. far easier just to get a cheapo FX60 than a whole new rig and cheaper too. Oh and i forgot to mention my customary "intel are one of the dirtiest company's in the world" comment, i feel it to be expected of me.

Your tosh reply was to part of this quote.

Now your saying that it was not.

pegasus1 · 6 Jan 2007 at 14:52

easyrider said:
TBH Half the time I dont think people with clocked X2's know exactly how fast conroe is.

Its in a different league both in Gaming and multimedia encoding etc...

The comparisons on Toms using an 8800GTX and at very high Res showed that the performance gap betwen Intel Conroe and FX was noticably smaller.

easyrider · 6 Jan 2007 at 15:00

Final8y said:
Your tosh reply was to part of this quote.

Now your saying that it was not.

My tosh reply was to that quote yes.

Never said otherwise.

its tosh because a 6300 will not only match a fx60 when its clocked its beats it handsdown.

Final8y · 6 Jan 2007 at 15:14

easyrider said:
My tosh reply was to that quote yes.

Never said otherwise.

its tosh because a 6300 will not only match a fx60 when its clocked its beats it handsdown.

The point still stands,the 6300 has to be overclocked.

Final8y · 6 Jan 2007 at 15:37

easyrider said:
There is no point to what you are saying now.

You are just repeating yourself over and over again.

Never disputed that fact from the start.

locutus12 stated the 6300 would only match FX 60 performance.I stated that this was tosh.

FACT so just dal with it

locutus posts are there for all to see.
You don't understand context, everything has to be spelled out for you.
If he has not said one thing he must be meaning the opposite.

Fact is 6300 is slower at stock than a FX60.
6300 will need to be clocked to match a FX60 does not mean in saying that, that the 6300 can not beat a FX60 when the 6300 is overclocked enough.

Killajaz · 6 Jan 2007 at 16:57

How was the ride? It was easy :/

I dont think anyone is contesting the fact Conroe is the quicker CPU. The point is for someone with a good 939 setup and quality DDR, this is not a bad option.

When I go conroe, I will want the best ram and best mobo to overclock it. And we all know it wont be a £40 upgrade anymore.

Antx777 · 6 Jan 2007 at 17:25

Well, I have an FX-55, and even should there be a cheap FX-60 come along, would wonder if it's worth the effort to upgrade. ....

If there are no more 939 chips that can't surpass the FX-60 (though the FX-57 is a faster single core @2.8 stock) then there's only one way forward really, Conroe. Did AMD run over 9 black cats?. The price/performance gap is so large, as to be very embarrassing for AMD :confused:

I heard on "click" (news 24 slot) that Intel duo are working to get the dual core into gaming this year. Wonder if AMD will be doing the same - and will some games run dual core on Intel and not AMD? (Or vice versa).

-Ant

easyrider · 6 Jan 2007 at 17:39

Final8y said:
locutus posts are there for all to see.
You don't understand context, everything has to be spelled out for you.
If he has not said one thing he must be meaning the opposite.

Fact is 6300 is slower at stock than a FX60..

Never said it wasn't

I'm not understanding your post's now.They just don't make sense in english terms. :confused:

6300 will need to be clocked to match a FX60 does not mean in saying that, that the 6300 can not beat a FX60 when the 6300 is overclocked enough.

I know,

This is what I have been saying all along.

Hence why the FX 60 is notgood value.Its a slow chip thats old tech.

Jokester · 6 Jan 2007 at 17:49

99% of home PC users don't overclock their PC though.

For anyone on S939 not overclocking, this may give them the best value upgrade for the immediate future. Coupled with a 8800GTS it'll see them through until new sockets come out.

Jokester

easyrider · 6 Jan 2007 at 18:15

Jokester said:
99% of home PC users don't overclock their PC though.

For anyone on S939 not overclocking, this may give them the best value upgrade for the immediate future. Coupled with a 8800GTS it'll see them through until new sockets come out.

Jokester

Yes thats true for people not overclocking.

But who buys and FX 60 to run at stock?

Its an enthusiast's chip.

I doubt anyone would care to spend 200+ on one if they didnt overclock it.
It would hold no interest for a standard PC user.

The unlocked multi etc.. would mean nothing to them hence they wouldn't be interested in buying one in the first place.

They might aswell just get a cheaper X2.

Robert · 6 Jan 2007 at 18:16

locutus12 said:
but why would you want to is the question when an E6300 will only "match" an FX60 when its clocked. far easier just to get a cheapo FX60 than a whole new rig and cheaper too. Oh and i forgot to mention my customary "intel are one of the dirtiest company's in the world" comment, i feel it to be expected of me.

Do you live on another planet? At STOCK an E6300 isn't far from an FX60, now when CLOCKED it...well it kinda beats it?

Jokester · 6 Jan 2007 at 18:20

easyrider said:
Yes thats true for people not overclocking.

But who buys and FX 60 to run at stock?

Its an enthusiast's chip.

I doubt anyone would care to spend 200+ on one if they didnt overclock it.
It would hold no interest for a standard PC user.

The unlocked multi etc.. would mean nothing to them hence they wouldn't be interested in buying one in the first place.

They might aswell just get a cheaper X2.

It's the fastest dual core chip on S939 at stock bar none, regardless of unlocked multi or a users knowledge. If someone not overclocking savvy is looking for the best chip to fit that socket then that's what chip they'll likely end up with.

Jokester

Margaret · 6 Jan 2007 at 18:24

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP SAYING TOSH.

Killajaz · 6 Jan 2007 at 18:38

Jokester said:
It's the fastest dual core chip on S939 at stock bar none, regardless of unlocked multi or a users knowledge. If someone not overclocking savvy is looking for the best chip to fit that socket then that's what chip they'll likely end up with.

Jokester

Exactly!

I have feeling regardless of what we say some people will never stop arguing.

easyrider · 6 Jan 2007 at 18:40

Jokester said:
It's the fastest dual core chip on S939 at stock bar none, regardless of unlocked multi or a users knowledge. If someone not overclocking savvy is looking for the best chip to fit that socket then that's what chip they'll likely end up with.

Jokester

I'm not arguing the fact:

For a noob its a good choice.

However for someone with a clocked 4400 or 4800 its a waste of money and not an upgrade.Thats my point.

Final8y · 6 Jan 2007 at 19:24

easyrider said:
Never said it wasn't

I'm not understanding your post's now.They just don't make sense in english terms.

I know,

This is what I have been saying all along.

Hence why the FX 60 is notgood value.Its a slow chip thats old tech.

Well when you learn to understand English then you will understand my posts like everyone else.

steveo · 6 Jan 2007 at 20:29

any word on the price drops on the fx60 or even if ocuk will be getting them in at that price ????? i really hope so coz my 4000+sd just doesnt cut it any more and thats with it oced

b.cummins · 6 Jan 2007 at 20:57

easyrider said:
I'm not arguing the fact:

For a noob its a good choice.

However for someone with a clocked 4400 or 4800 its a waste of money and not an upgrade.Thats my point.

I can see what you mean, although most people are arguing in terms of a conroe being cheaper and hence better value since it clocks on stock cooling - wtf?! Aren't you forgetting the fact that if you're still on socket 939, you still need to buy an intel mobo and ddr2 ram!? In this instance.. a little more pushing power from an FX-60 might well be the way to go to prevent the need to upgrade with the whole DX10 GFX movement. No1 should be worried about a bottleneck atm.

pieman109 · 7 Jan 2007 at 10:28

I would seriuosly look at the cost of going conroe. theres some nice deals going on atm, and a 6300 even mildly overclock is far superior to an FX60. I know its a case of only replacing the cpu if you go with the FX60, but going conroe, the performance increase overall is far greater.