• Competitor rules

    Please remember that any mention of competitors, hinting at competitors or offering to provide details of competitors will result in an account suspension. The full rules can be found under the 'Terms and Rules' link in the bottom right corner of your screen. Just don't mention competitors in any way, shape or form and you'll be OK.

** AMD BACK IN THE GAME: PRICE DROP EXCLUSIVE TO OcUK!! **

Just read some reviews and it has left me wondering why you would buy one of these Fury cards?

It seems to be a tiny bit faster than a GTX 980 which can be had for £24 cheaper and much slower than the GTX 980ti which can be had for £45 extra.

Am I missing something?
 
lovelyhead said:
Just read some reviews and it has left me wondering why you would buy one of these Fury cards?

It seems to be a tiny bit faster than a GTX 980 which can be had for £24 cheaper and much slower than the GTX 980ti which can be had for £45 extra.

Am I missing something?
Click to expand...
It's faster than a 980 across the board, especially once you move beyond 1080p, and absolutely blows it away in DX12/Vulkan titles (indeed it can hang with a 980 Ti/1070), so a lot more futureproof for someone looking for a card for the next couple of years. I don't see any reason why you'd consider a 980 over it. The Fury cards will age much, much better than the 980 over the next few years, with the new APIs becoming the norm.

The 980 Ti is more arguable, but I wouldn't touch one of those either at this point, personally. Having recently ditched a 780, I know how it goes with old Nvidia cards and a lack of driver support. The only options I'd consider are the Fury at £300 or one of the many decent 1070s that you can get for just under £400, because that's a card with a much brighter future than the 980 Ti.

lovelyhead said:
Around the beginning of the year. Have driver improvements closed the gap on the 980ti?
Click to expand...
Not necessarily driver improvements, but the availability of more DX12/Vulkan titles, where the Fury cards start to shine.

10100505809lylsz5.png
doom_1920_vryjjp.jpg


Of course, you can knock 5% off those numbers for a stock non-X Fury. Certainly the choice is clear between it and the 980, and as I said I firmly believe the 1070 is worth the extra money over the 980 Ti. So it's really a matter of whether you have £300 or £400 to spend.
 
lovelyhead said:
Around the beginning of the year. Have driver improvements closed the gap on the 980ti?
Click to expand...

Looking at reviews of the RX480 from last month, the Fury looks to be significantly faster than a 980 across the board at 1440p, and pretty close to a 980ti. In DX12 and Vulkan, it is starting to really stretch its legs, for example beating a 980ti in Ashes of the Singularity.
 
Aretak said:
It's faster than a 980 across the board, especially once you move beyond 1080p, and absolutely blows it away in DX12/Vulkan titles (indeed it can hang with a 980 Ti/1070), so a lot more futureproof for someone looking for a card for the next couple of years. I don't see any reason why you'd consider a 980 over it. The Fury cards will age much, much better than the 980 over the next few years, with the new APIs becoming the norm.

The 980 Ti is more arguable, but I wouldn't touch one of those either at this point, personally. Having recently ditched a 780, I know how it goes with old Nvidia cards and a lack of driver support. The only options I'd consider are the Fury at £300 or one of the many decent 1070s that you can get for just under £400, because that's a card with a much brighter future than the 980 Ti.


Not necessarily driver improvements, but the availability of more DX12/Vulkan titles, where the Fury cards start to shine.

10100505809lylsz5.png
doom_1920_vryjjp.jpg


Of course, you can knock 5% off those numbers for a stock non-X Fury. Certainly the choice is clear between it and the 980, and as I said I firmly believe the 1070 is worth the extra money over the 980 Ti. So it's really a matter of whether you have £300 or £400 to spend.
Click to expand...

ouch you've got a 2011 7970 BEATING a 780 Ti!! and not much behind the 970, I really do hope AMD can pull back with vulkan and DX12 because Nvidia deserves a good low blow after giving us all a low blow with these prices! -_-
 
Aretak said:
It's faster than a 980 across the board, especially once you move beyond 1080p, and absolutely blows it away in DX12/Vulkan titles (indeed it can hang with a 980 Ti/1070), so a lot more futureproof for someone looking for a card for the next couple of years. I don't see any reason why you'd consider a 980 over it. The Fury cards will age much, much better than the 980 over the next few years, with the new APIs becoming the norm.

The 980 Ti is more arguable, but I wouldn't touch one of those either at this point, personally. Having recently ditched a 780, I know how it goes with old Nvidia cards and a lack of driver support. The only options I'd consider are the Fury at £300 or one of the many decent 1070s that you can get for just under £400, because that's a card with a much brighter future than the 980 Ti.


Not necessarily driver improvements, but the availability of more DX12/Vulkan titles, where the Fury cards start to shine.

[SNIP]

Of course, you can knock 5% off those numbers for a stock non-X Fury. Certainly the choice is clear between it and the 980, and as I said I firmly believe the 1070 is worth the extra money over the 980 Ti. So it's really a matter of whether you have £300 or £400 to spend.
Click to expand...

Very interesting. I am sure you will all have seen the Digital Foundry video showing the massive performance improvements the Fury X is getting in Doom with Vulkan.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...n-patch-shows-game-changing-performance-gains

Put's it on par, if not slightly ahead of the 1070 and 980ti.

Makes the Fury more appealing than first impressions would suggest.

Question; I am looking to get a 21:9 monitor, 1440p. Will the Fury be capable enough to drive that?

Given the choice of a 980ti or a Fury for the same price, which would you choose?
 
Tommy_Here said:
ouch you've got a 2011 7970 BEATING a 780 Ti!! and not much behind the 970, I really do hope AMD can pull back with vulkan and DX12 because Nvidia deserves a good low blow after giving us all a low blow with these prices! -_-
Click to expand...

No, the 780 gets 60 fps with vulkan with the new driver and 75 fps with open gl so a 780 ti will be at least 10% faster.

Nice looking chart though, Really pops out at you but i cannot help thinking of the Italian national flag when looking at it.
 
lovelyhead said:
Question; I am looking to get a 21:9 monitor, 1440p. Will the Fury be capable enough to drive that?

Given the choice of a 980ti or a Fury for the same price, which would you choose?
Click to expand...
A Fury would certainly drive a 1440p ultrawide pretty well, especially in DX12/Vulkan titles, although it really depends on your personal standards for settings. If you need everything cranked up to the max, you're likely going to need a 1080 for that. With a few compromises though, a Fury would provide a good experience.

As for the Fury versus the 980 Ti if they were the exact same price, probably the 980 Ti on balance. As good as the Furies are and are going to be in newer titles, there's no question that the 980 Ti beats them once overclocked in most DX11 games (although the gap is a lot smaller at higher resolutions between the two than it is at 1080p). So if you're planning to play a lot of older stuff too, the 980 Ti will likely hand in better performance there.

It's difficult to predict the future though. Two years ago people would have told you that the 780 Ti was a better bet than the 290X, yet it aged like a carton of milk left out in the sun, whilst the 290X is still going strong. But then the 290X was the one with the VRAM advantage there, whereas it's the other way around now. Maybe that will become really important. Maybe it won't. It's a gamble either way I suppose.
 
Aretak said:
A Fury would certainly drive a 1440p ultrawide pretty well, especially in DX12/Vulkan titles, although it really depends on your personal standards for settings. If you need everything cranked up to the max, you're likely going to need a 1080 for that. With a few compromises though, a Fury would provide a good experience.

As for the Fury versus the 980 Ti if they were the exact same price, probably the 980 Ti on balance. As good as the Furies are and are going to be in newer titles, there's no question that the 980 Ti beats them once overclocked in most DX11 games (although the gap is a lot smaller at higher resolutions between the two than it is at 1080p). So if you're planning to play a lot of older stuff too, the 980 Ti will likely hand in better performance there.

It's difficult to predict the future though. Two years ago people would have told you that the 780 Ti was a better bet than the 290X, yet it aged like a carton of milk left out in the sun, whilst the 290X is still going strong. But then the 290X was the one with the VRAM advantage there, whereas it's the other way around now. Maybe that will become really important. Maybe it won't. It's a gamble either way I suppose.
Click to expand...

Am I right in thinking that if I buy a freesync monitor I will get away with being able to crank everything up to max settings (assuming I am running a Fury) and the freesync monitor will keep the image smooth assuming FPS doesn't drop too drastically?

I think the other thing I have to consider is that if I were to go for a 980ti, that effectively adds £100 extra to a future monitor purchase as Gsync is more expensive than Freesync. So an equally priced 980ti in this scenario is really £100 more expensive.
 
Yes, FreeSync would absolutely be a big help there, and as you say, FreeSync monitors are also a lot more affordable than G-Sync ones. Just another thing to consider when making a decision I guess.
 
It's quite exciting actually the performance of Fiji under dx12 and Vulkan, I ridiculed the cards when they first arrived but it's obvious now their hardware was well ahead of its time.

So if Vega is a matured version of Fiji, and they can do something about the dx11 performance and keep the fiji type scaling under dx12 and Vulkan etc, they are going to have a monstrous card on their hands.

It's obvious now their hardware is the only choice if you want dx12 and Vulkan games, but they still lack in dx11, of the cards that are actually meant to compete with 1070 / 1080 can get close in dx11, I can only imagine how superior they will be in dx12 and Vulkan.

Problem is AMD invariably screw something up with new cards it seems nowadays, fingers crossed they launch Vega and it actually delivers
 
Gibbo said:
To be fair the same from Team Green is £1400, so your saving £500 for essentially a similar experience. I'd say G-Sync has the edge, but is that slight edge worth £500 more?
Click to expand...

I think freesync has the edge :)

gsync monitors have limited input ports. Originally DP only and now one DP + 1 hdmi, whilst freesync screens can still have dvi, vga etc.

Shame these cards (fury x) are just 4gig vram, if this happened a week ago before I got my 1070 and it was a 6+ gig card, it may have swayed me over the 1070.
 
Last edited:
Ian Evey said:
No, the 780 gets 60 fps with vulkan with the new driver and 75 fps with open gl so a 780 ti will be at least 10% faster.

Nice looking chart though, Really pops out at you but i cannot help thinking of the Italian national flag when looking at it.
Click to expand...

If it was the 7970 ghz edition it would be like the 280x and beat it. Still a really nice result from the standard one.

Great now all I see is the Italian flag too. :p
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom